RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-14 Thread John van Oppen
://spectrumnetworks.us -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:02 AM To: Mike Bartz Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Mike, Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any serious issues

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
NANOG is too cool. Rhyming with net engineers. Poet don't know it. Jay Murphy IP Network Specialist NM Department of Health ITSD - IP Network Operations Santa Fe, New Mexico 87502 Bus. Ph.: 505.827.2851 We move the information that moves your world. -Original Message- From:

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
The XO version: XO is low cost The cabinets had no power Service was useless Jeff On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Murphy, Jay, DOH jay.mur...@state.nm.us wrote: NANOG is too cool. Rhyming with net engineers. Poet don't know it. Jay Murphy IP Network Specialist NM Department of Health

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Darryl Dunkin
Customers thank me I will not stoop much lower Pay dirt for transit -Original Message- From: Murphy, Jay, DOH [mailto:jay.mur...@state.nm.us] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 09:41 To: neal rauhauser; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 NANOG is too cool. Rhyming with net

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
, January 12, 2009 10:50 AM To: Murphy, Jay, DOH; neal rauhauser; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Customers thank me I will not stoop much lower Pay dirt for transit -Original Message- From: Murphy, Jay, DOH [mailto:jay.mur...@state.nm.us] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 09

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Mike Bartz
I like the haiku! On a serious note, we are considering getting a connection from Cogent. We currently have connections to att, Level 3 and TW Telecom. The low cost and high number of peer AS number's seems appealing to us. Every carrier has its issues, so I don't know what to make of the

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Josh Potter
: Monday, January 12, 2009 09:41 To: neal rauhauser; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 NANOG is too cool. Rhyming with net engineers. Poet don't know it. Jay Murphy IP Network Specialist NM Department of Health ITSD - IP Network Operations Santa Fe, New Mexico 87502 Bus. Ph

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Ray Corbin
Net admins are bored Nanog lists run wild Useless spam blows up phone :) -r -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:48 PM To: Murphy, Jay, DOH Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 The XO version: XO

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
- From: Mike Bartz [mailto:m...@bartzfamily.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:54 AM To: neal rauhauser Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 I like the haiku! On a serious note, we are considering getting a connection from Cogent. We currently have connections to att, Level 3 and TW

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Ken Simpson
- From: Murphy, Jay, DOH [mailto:jay.mur...@state.nm.us] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 09:41 To: neal rauhauser; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 NANOG is too cool. Rhyming with net engineers. Poet don't know it. Jay Murphy IP Network Specialist NM Department of Health ITSD - IP

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Mike, Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or BtN. Best regards, Jeff On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Mike Bartz

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Aaron Wendel
NANOG has admins They waste a lot of time now Maybe paid to much -Original Message- From: Murphy, Jay, DOH [mailto:jay.mur...@state.nm.us] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:57 AM To: Mike Bartz; neal rauhauser Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Level 3 has gear

Cogent Considerations [was: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0]

2009-01-12 Thread Adam Young
Mike Bartz wrote: I like the haiku! On a serious note, we are considering getting a connection from Cogent. We currently have connections to att, Level 3 and TW Telecom. The low cost and high number of peer AS number's seems appealing to us. Every carrier has its issues, so I don't know

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Jeffrey Lyon wrote: Mike, Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or BtN. I can second that. For the amount of money they

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
Jeffrey Lyon wrote: Mike, Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or BtN. Plus if you had direct connectivity to Cogent, their

Re: Cogent Considerations [was: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0]

2009-01-12 Thread Jim Shankland
Adam Young wrote: I wouldn't take my word for it but truthfully, you get what you pay for. Given you have other, more reliable transit, adding Cogent may be ok. I wouldn't rely on it for anything serious though. That has not been my experience. Peering wars have been an issue, but aside from

Re: Cogent Considerations [was: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0]

2009-01-12 Thread Brandon Galbraith
On 1/12/09, Jim Shankland na...@shankland.org wrote: Adam Young wrote: I wouldn't take my word for it but truthfully, you get what you pay for. Given you have other, more reliable transit, adding Cogent may be ok. I wouldn't rely on it for anything serious though. That has not been my

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Soucy, Ray
Services University of Maine System http://www.maine.edu/ -Original Message- From: Mike Bartz [mailto:m...@bartzfamily.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:54 PM To: neal rauhauser Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 I like the haiku! On a serious note, we

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Jack Bates
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Jan 12, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Soucy, Ray wrote: We peer with Cogent. They are very competitive in terms of pricing. To be honest, Cogent has been pretty good to us. As long as you have a 2nd peer (which it sounds like you do) for backup I'd say they're a pretty safe

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread kris foster
Hi everyone The Mailing List Committee would like to remind everyone that threads of this sort are not operationally relevant and go against the spirit of the AUP [1]. Haikus, one line jokes, and me too replies simply do not provide enough information for each of NANOG's 10,000 subscribers