Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-11-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 19/Oct/18 16:57, Marshall, Quincy wrote: > > * * > > Not unheard of… requested several new quotes in the last few months > and at least 2 included $50/mo charge for BGP. > My memory could be dodgy, but I think I recall seeing something similar on an order form they sent us for an upgrade

RE: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-19 Thread Marshall, Quincy
On: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:03 AM, Jeff Waddell said… Here in the US it is unheard of. So far for every turn up I have done in Europe or Asia we were charged a separate BGP session fee. Not unheard of… requested several new quotes in the last few months and at least 2 included $50/mo

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-19 Thread Dovid Bender
Here in the US it is unheard of. So far for every turn up I have done in Europe or Asia we were charged a separate BGP session fee. On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:17 AM, Jeff Waddell < jeff+na...@waddellsolutions.com> wrote: > What Cogent charges is not a one time fee, its monthly recurring > > On

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-19 Thread Jeff Waddell
What Cogent charges is not a one time fee, its monthly recurring On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:43 AM H I Baysal wrote: > Indeed, its a one time fee to setup BGP. And as a side note, > I's also separate for v4 and v6 sessions. > > I was also taken aback when i heard it the first time. > On 17-10-18

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-19 Thread H I Baysal
Indeed, its a one time fee to setup BGP. And as a side note, I's also separate for v4 and v6 sessions. I was also taken aback when i heard it the first time. On 17-10-18 18:12, David Hubbard wrote: They charge it even if you’re using your own address space.  It’s a fee simply for

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Ben Cannon
We pay it too and I’ve asked to have it waived -Ben > On Oct 17, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > They gave me a free /29 and then when I reminded them about BGP they popped > up another agreement for $50/mo. This was today. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct:

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
They gave me a free /29 and then when I reminded them about BGP they popped up another agreement for $50/mo. This was today. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 12:25 PM Anderson, Charles R wrote: > I was told

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Anderson, Charles R
I was told they only charge it if you have bigger than a /29 from them. On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 04:12:01PM +, David Hubbard wrote: > They charge it even if you’re using your own address space. It’s a fee > simply for establishing BGP with them on a given circuit. I believe if you > used

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread David Hubbard
They charge it even if you’re using your own address space. It’s a fee simply for establishing BGP with them on a given circuit. I believe if you used static routes and their space, you would not have to pay it. From: NANOG on behalf of Josh Luthman Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
I view Cogent IP space as a way to lock customers to their service, ie make them sticky. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 12:03 PM Brielle Bruns wrote: > On 10/17/2018 9:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Has

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Jeff Waddell
Yes - we just renewed/ upgraded and they hit us with it - pushed back at the lower the bandwidth cost a little bit to compensate for it On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:55 AM David Hubbard < dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com> wrote: > Yep we pay it on our circuits, begrudgingly. Wouldn’t mind it as much

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 10/17/2018 9:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone else dealt with this mess?  Even my Cogent rep admits it's unique to their business. That sounds like the BS the first company I worked for tried to pull. One would think they'd welcome customers bringing their own IP space since it saves

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:53:47 -, David Hubbard said: > Yep we pay it on our circuits, begrudgingly. Wouldn’t mind it as much if > it > actually delivered me every BGP prefix in the global routing table… On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:49:10 -0400, Jason Canady said: >  I believe IPv6 BGP is

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread David Hubbard
Yep we pay it on our circuits, begrudgingly. Wouldn’t mind it as much if it actually delivered me every BGP prefix in the global routing table… From: NANOG on behalf of Josh Luthman Date: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 11:49 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs,

Re: Cogent charging 50/mo for BGP (not IPs, the service)

2018-10-17 Thread Jason Canady
Yes.  Our service didn't start out this way, but a few years ago they added that.  At least my rep at the time quoted me out with the fee added into it.  I believe IPv6 BGP is free. On 10/17/18 11:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone else dealt with this mess?  Even my Cogent rep admits it's