Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-21 Thread Thomas Nadeau
My VZ FioS install was similarly fantastic. Those guys have figured out that spending a little more time, effort and cable (cat6 in the case of VZ) goes a long, long way in keeping customers happy. --Tom On Aug 20, 2012:7:43 PM, at 7:43 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:

RE: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-21 Thread Naslund, Steve
Message- From: Peter Kristolaitis [mailto:alte...@alter3d.ca] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 3:31 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies On 12-08-20 04:25 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 04:12:22PM -0400, Patrick W

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-21 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
You're lucky. Verizon did a great job installing mine (ONT on the backboard I put in the basement for them, handoff on ethernet rather than MOCA, etc) but somehow never managed to get around to dispatching anyone to actually install the permanent fiber drop (despite multiple calls).

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-21 Thread Daniel Seagraves
Comcast annoys me. I never have any problems with the people you get when you call in, or the tech support people, but their contractors STINK. At home the Comcast line boxes serving the apartments aren't even closed. They just sit open and fill up with rain until things crap out. The

RE: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-21 Thread Eric Wieling
AM To: Thomas Nadeau Cc: North American Network Operators' Group; Joe Greco Subject: Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies You're lucky. Verizon did a great job installing mine (ONT on the backboard I put in the basement for them, handoff on ethernet rather than MOCA, etc

RE: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-21 Thread Naslund, Steve
: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies Comcast annoys me. I never have any problems with the people you get when you call in, or the tech support people, but their contractors STINK. At home the Comcast line boxes serving the apartments aren't even closed. They just sit open and fill up with rain

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-21 Thread Charles Gucker
of work than the actual cost of the materials and installation. charles -Original Message- From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:r...@seastrom.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:01 AM To: Thomas Nadeau Cc: North American Network Operators' Group; Joe Greco Subject: Re: Comcast vs. Verizon

RE: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-21 Thread Naslund, Steve
. Gilmore Subject: Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies On Aug 21, 2012, at 09:54 , Naslund, Steve snasl...@medline.com wrote: I think the issue is that the field techs wanted to get the customer up and running. Most of the outside plant stuff is done by contractors and it takes time

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-21 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:22:54AM -0500, Daniel Seagraves wrote: Comcast annoys me. I never have any problems with the people you get when you call in, or the tech support people, but their contractors STINK. Whenever techs come to my house I like to ask them about

RE: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-21 Thread Mario Eirea
know who's internal politics are more complicated, ATT or Comcast. -Mario Eirea -Original Message- From: Daniel Seagraves [mailto:dseag...@humancapitaldev.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:23 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

RE: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-20 Thread Otis L. Surratt, Jr.
I'm baffled. This is horrible! What about standards? -Original Message- From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patr...@ianai.net] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 3:12 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies Given the recent VZ thread, I thought I'd show why my

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-20 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 04:12:22PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The story: A piece of underground cable went bad. The techs didn't pull new underground cable. They decided it was better to do it arial (if you can call 2 feet arial). They took apart the two

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-20 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
On 12-08-20 04:25 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 04:12:22PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The story: A piece of underground cable went bad. The techs didn't pull new underground cable. They decided it was better to do it arial (if you can call 2 feet

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 20, 2012, at 16:25 , Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: In a message written on Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 04:12:22PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The story: A piece of underground cable went bad. The techs didn't pull new underground cable. They decided it was better to do it

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-20 Thread Ren Provo
Hi Patrick, Yikes. We can work together on getting this sorted. Will give you details directly. Cheers, -ren On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: Given the recent VZ thread, I thought I'd show why my new house has crap Internet. The story: A piece

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-20 Thread Joe Greco
The story: A piece of underground cable went bad. The techs didn't pull = new underground cable. They decided it was better to do it arial (if = you can call 2 feet arial). They took apart the two pedestals on = either side of the break and ran a new strand of RG6 (yes, the same = stuff

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-20 Thread Randy Bush
on bainbridge, i replaced centurystink dsl (756k/256k for $65/mo) with comcast (20m/4m for $50/mo). the installer was a knarly old dog, and damned competent. he cleaned up old cable on the pole and where it went underground to the house. he cleaned up the box and replaced in-house junctions.

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-20 Thread Greg Shepherd
Oh to have choices... I'm still hanging on the end of a dedicated T1 and paying through the nose. I'm nearly convinced that the monthly income from my circuit has prevented Qwest, and now Century Link from building out DSL. Greg On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: