Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-08 Thread Jeroen van Aart
On 05/01/2013 10:05 PM, shawn wilson wrote: I'm more impressed with MicroCenter than Frys (at least the Frys south if SF). Too bad the Micro Center in Santa Clara along hwy 101 closed shop a year or so ago. According to them the owner of the building raised the lease price too much. The

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-08 Thread George Herbert
Central Computers is ok on no-name server components, but not at all for rack / cabling / power / management / etc. Micro Center was right next to places I go to eat over there, but all gone. I can almost see Frys off Lawrence/Scott from here, and there's a Graybar 3 miles the other direction.

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-02 Thread Warren Bailey
From: Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com Date: 05/01/2013 10:18 PM (GMT-08:00) To: shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com Cc: North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Never been to MicroCenter Sent from my iPad mini On May 2, 2013, at 1:05 AM

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-02 Thread Joe Greco
Wish there was Frys in the east=20 Micro Center is kind of like a less-insane Frys. Always seem to be somewhat inconveniently located though. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-02 Thread Joe Greco
I thought maybe there was a secret place to get cool data center layer 1 st= uff.. Yeah, it's called inventory ... ;-) Seriously, there's a reason why it is common to maintain shelving in the data center, and/or storage lockers nearby. The stuff you use and find usable isn't the same stuff

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-02 Thread Jamie Bowden
From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say. I use Graybar

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-02 Thread Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List
. Surratt, Jr. [mailto:o...@ocosa.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 1:40 PM To: Warren Bailey; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Data Center Installations -Original Message- From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-02 Thread Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List
PM To: Otis L. Surratt, Jr. Cc: Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List; Warren Bailey; NANOG Subject: Re: Data Center Installations For bulk velcro, I found Uline to be fairly cheap. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.commailto:o...@ocosa.com wrote: -Original Message

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Joe Hamelin
Graybar. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Harry Hoffman
On the cheap Lowes/Home Depot are awesome, and they're everywhere. On 05/01/2013 03:23 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Christopher Rogers
I'm a huge fan of netig... they bend over backwards for you. -chris Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say. //warren

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Otis L. Surratt, Jr.
-Original Message- From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Data Center Installations Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management,

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread George Herbert
Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a Frys or Home Depot or Lowes. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com wrote: Graybar. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Mike Lyon
Tessco or Hutton. Lil pricey unless you buy in bulk. Good fit for you though since they carry RF and antenna stuff too. -mike Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2013, at 12:45, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Warren Bailey

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Adrian
On Wednesday 01 May 2013 12:23, Warren Bailey wrote: Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say. Would largely depend on your

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Otis L. Surratt, Jr.
-Original Message- From: Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List [mailto:blake.mailingl...@pfankuch.me] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:18 PM To: Otis L. Surratt, Jr.; Warren Bailey; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Data Center Installations Along this same line of questioning... favorite Velcro? I

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Mike Lyon
.; Warren Bailey; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Data Center Installations Along this same line of questioning... favorite Velcro? I used to get spools of about 500 8 inch strips for a reasonable amount however the vendor went out of business. The cloth tabs are nice, but then end up getting

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Michael Loftis
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: For bulk velcro, I found Uline to be fairly cheap. I have to ask, is this an April fools joke? ULine isn't cheap for anything. Monoprice, $13, around $25 delivered depending on where you're at and how yu ship it, for 5x black

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Mike Lyon
Is hard to beat Monoprice :) But no, I have purchased velcro in bulk from ULine (not the kind for wrapping cable though) and found it to be cheaper and I usually got it the next day for not that much shipping. -Mike On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Michael Loftis mlof...@wgops.com wrote: On

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Mark Gauvin
Zip ties have no reason to be in a dc grr Sent from my iPhone On 2013-05-01, at 6:57 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: Is hard to beat Monoprice :) But no, I have purchased velcro in bulk from ULine (not the kind for wrapping cable though) and found it to be cheaper and I usually

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Warren Bailey
Bring your lacing skills? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Mark Gauvin mgau...@dryden.ca Date: 05/01/2013 5:01 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Zip ties have

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Jeff Kell
On 5/1/2013 7:57 PM, Mark Gauvin wrote: Zip ties have no reason to be in a dc grr They have their place, but decidedly not in data center racks where **nothing** is permanent/fixed very long :) Jeff

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Rob Seastrom
Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com writes: Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? For stuff that they carry, Deep Surplus has been acceptable quality and the price is generally right. Others have

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Blake Dunlap
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Bring your lacing skills Flex cross twist knot flex cross twist flex cross twist knot flex cross twist... -Blake

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Wish there was Frys in the east -Original Message- From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:42 PM To: Joe Hamelin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Graybar is great -Original Message- From: Joe Hamelin [mailto:j...@nethead.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:32 PM To: Warren Bailey Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Graybar. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread shawn wilson
[mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:42 PM To: Joe Hamelin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a Frys or Home Depot or Lowes. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a Frys or Home Depot or Lowes. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.commailto:j...@nethead.com wrote: Graybar. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM