On 09/16/11 08:35, John Curran wrote:
On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com]
Sent: 16 September 2011 16:05
To: John Curran
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA
On Sep 17, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Michael Sinatra wrote:
One approach would be the use of an option flag on the query to obtain
the new hierarchical output No flag = no output change. Would that
suffice?
I think this would be a good way to proceed. John, has this been suggested
as part of
Someone laying that restful whois to rest or at least maintaining
the old whois in parallel would be great.
Lots and lots of scripts to go spammer hunting using regexps to find
all the netblocks assigned to a spammer had to be rewritten :(
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Randy Bush
Someone laying that restful whois to rest or at least maintaining
the old whois in parallel would be great.
Lots and lots of scripts to go spammer hunting using regexps to find
all the netblocks assigned to a spammer had to be rewritten :(
when you have a monopoly, you do not have the
* Jon Lewis:
No he's not. He's complaining that sometime in the past few weeks (or
is it months now?) ARIN changed the behavior of their whois server.
Ahem, ARIN's WHOIS server has been sending such responses for ages.
Maybe the change is that more addresses trigger this behavior, but you
On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:21 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
when you have a monopoly, you do not have the slightest instinct to
think of the effects of your actions on others.
Randy -
Over the last decade, we've run multiple consultations with the
community regarding changing Whois. These have
If you have a particular suggestion for changing whois, please
feel free to submit it.
simple. don't.
if you want to do something new, don't call it whois.
randy
-Original Message-
From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com]
Sent: 16 September 2011 16:05
To: John Curran
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ?
If you have a particular suggestion for changing whois, please
feel free to submit
On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com]
Sent: 16 September 2011 16:05
To: John Curran
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ?
If you have a particular suggestion
As the new arin whois is best suited for REST .. offer it only over
REST? Queries from shell prompts can go on the same way they've gone
on for years.
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:05 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:
One approach would be the use of an option flag on the query to obtain
One approach would be the use of an option flag on the query to obtain
the new hierarchical output No flag = no output change. Would that
suffice?
how to do something new is best discussed by folk who want or need
something new, the folk with skin in the game. so, though i have an
opinion
On Sep 16, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
One approach would be the use of an option flag on the query to obtain
the new hierarchical output No flag = no output change. Would that
suffice?
how to do something new is best discussed by folk who want or need
something new, the folk
One approach would be the use of an option flag on the query to obtain
the new hierarchical output No flag = no output change. Would that
suffice?
how to do something new is best discussed by folk who want or need
something new, the folk with skin in the game. so, though i have an
Saying NANOG = ARIN is like saying Middle East = Terrorist. That kind
of generalization is never useful. ARIN is one of many non-Government
organizations that make decisions regarding the Internet.
As for your reference to Obama-style I'm not sure if you're trying
to pay homage to, or insult
Saying NANOG = ARIN is like saying Middle East = Terrorist. That kind
of generalization is never useful. ARIN is one of many non-Government
organizations that make decisions regarding the Internet.
As for your reference to Obama-style I'm not sure if you're trying
to pay homage to, or
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:53 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:
On Sep 16, 2011, at 3:21 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
Randy -
Over the last decade, we've run multiple consultations with the
While I appreciate that ARIN has had community consultations...
It needs to be understood that the WHOIS
Does whois have a bug tracker somewhere? That seems to be the place to
file these sort of things.
I hate to beat/stab a dead horsey, but I found this by happenstance:
https://www.arin.net/resources/whoisrws/whois_diff.html
which describes some of the differences between RWS output and
traditional output.
For the scripty-minded folks out there:
$ wget -O - -q
I hate to beat/stab a dead horsey, but I found this by happenstance:
https://www.arin.net/resources/whoisrws/whois_diff.html
which describes some of the differences between RWS output and
traditional output.
For the scripty-minded folks out there:
$ wget -O - -q
On 2011-09-12 17:40 , Always Learning wrote:
Dear person who is to scared to setup a regular email account in his own
full name.
[..]
The Internet was created in North America. Many people around the world
would appreciate your help in getting ARIN to revert to normal WHOIS
displays. ARIN
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On 2011-09-12 17:40 , Always Learning wrote:
Dear person who is to scared to setup a regular email account in his own
full name.
[..]
The Internet was created in North America. Many people around the world
would appreciate your help in getting ARIN
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 12:32 -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:
No he's not. He's complaining that sometime in the past few weeks (or is
it months now?) ARIN changed the behavior of their whois server. New
output for the query 209.208.0.1 is (omitting comments):
Internet Connect Company, Inc.
Massar
Cc: p...@arin.net; NANOG
Subject: Re: Disappointing ARIN - A great advertisement for the USA ?
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On 2011-09-12 17:40 , Always Learning wrote:
Dear person who is to scared to setup a regular email account in his
own full name.
[..]
The Internet
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011, Eric Krichbaum wrote:
That was on June 25th according to Mark Kosters. They started to answer
with both the parent and delegated objects. That hosed the way RWHOIS data
was being reported to most things as the client won't know which to send
through to the rwhois servers.
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2011, Eric Krichbaum wrote:
That was on June 25th according to Mark Kosters. They started to answer
with both the parent and delegated objects. That hosed the way RWHOIS
data
was being reported to most
On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 18:17 +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On 2011-09-12 17:40 , Always Learning wrote:
Dear person who is to scared to setup a regular email account in his own
full name.
Beste Fuzzel,
Mijn naam is Paul. It was at the bottom of my posting.
Sorry I have never ever had a
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:53:47PM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:
Prepending the query with a + works for me, in that I get the expected
data, but there's additional unexpeced data (full record for the Parent,
even if the Parent is just an ARIN /8) in the output that will probably
still cause
On 09/12/11 10:13, Always Learning wrote:
Primarily IP ranges to block and/or abuse email addresses.
https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/
Thank you. I will try it.
Oh, and there they also like to see your real name and not a junk mail
address. Just like on the RIPE
On 9/12/11 4:58 PM, Michael Sinatra mich...@rancid.berkeley.edu wrote:
On 09/12/11 10:13, Always Learning wrote:
Primarily IP ranges to block and/or abuse email addresses.
https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/
Thank you. I will try it.
Oh, and there they also like to see your
On 09/12/11 17:49, Jimmy Hess wrote:
I think arin-discuss would be a better place for this than arin-ppml.
You're suggesting using ARIN's private members-only mailing list over
a public one?
That doesn't make sense, because this is a public issue, not a members issue.
PPML isn't right either,
I e-mailed Marco (md) the creator of 'whois' back in July when this started
and he stated he was going to try to work around the rWHOIS issue in the
next release. Sadly there hasn't been a new release yet but I am hopeful.
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