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From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:07 PM
To: Jean-Francois Mezei
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Variety, On The Media, don't understand the Internet
On May 15, 2013, at 09:59 , Jean-Francois Mezei
jfmezei_na
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei
jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote:
Netflix's policy does require a minimum amount of traffic before an ISP
can deploy an Open Connect appliance. So smaller ISPs are at a
disadvantage if they are located in a city without CDN presence.
On May 14, 2013, Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote:
But when traffic from a cahe server flows directly into an ISP's intranet
to end users, it doesn't really make use of the Internet nor does it cost
the ISP transit capacity.
Compare this to a small ISP in a city where there
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 09:14:56PM -0400, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote:
On 13-05-14 20:55, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Since when is peering not part of the Internet?
Yes, one car argue that an device with an IP address routable from the
internet is part of the internet.
But when traffic
On 13-05-15 06:24, ja...@towardex.com wrote:
We're a small ISP and we reach lot of content via peering just fine. Lot of
these contents that you speak of (Netflix, Akamai, et al) have open peering
policies and are present in more exchange points than anybody else.
Not all ISPs are fortunate
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei
jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote:
On 13-05-15 06:24, ja...@towardex.com wrote:
We're a small ISP and we reach lot of content via peering just fine. Lot of
these contents that you speak of (Netflix, Akamai, et al) have open peering
On 13-05-15 09:02, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
So it's only on the Internet if it uses a provider's transit capacity?
I made the statement in a context of the internet is crumbling under
the Netflix load. There have been many media reports over the years of
the internet unable to cope with the
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei
jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote:
On 13-05-15 09:02, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
So it's only on the Internet if it uses a provider's transit capacity?
I made the statement in a context of the internet is crumbling under
the Netflix load.
On Wed, 15 May 2013 11:46:36 -0400, Jean-Francois Mezei said:
Not all ISPs are fortunate enough to be in a town where there is an
active exchange with Netflix/Akamai/Google presence.
For instance, Montréal just recently oopened a peering exchange. While
this will eventually allow local ISPs
Not all ISPs are fortunate enough to be in a town where there is an active
exchange with Netflix/Akamai/Google presence.
For instance, Montréal just recently oopened a peering exchange. While
this will eventually allow local ISPs to peer with
the big content providers, until this happens,
On May 15, 2013, at 09:59 , Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca
wrote:
On 13-05-15 09:02, Brett Frankenberger wrote:
So it's only on the Internet if it uses a provider's transit capacity?
All of this is leading me to the following conclusion:
If we, as network engineers can't
On 13-05-15 14:07, Owen DeLong wrote:
If we, as network engineers can't agree on the nature and definition of the
internet,
how can we possibly expect the media to understand it?
When someone cuts a cable in the meditarenean, the media doesn't say
the internet has crawled to a snail's pace,
On 13-05-14 13:06, Jay Ashworth wrote:
http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/
they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is either not
affecting these numbers and their pertinence to the backbone at all,
or not much.
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei
jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote:
On 13-05-14 13:06, Jay Ashworth wrote:
http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/
they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is either not
On May 14, 2013, at 13:06 , Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
Or I don't. Which is not completely impossible.
In this piece:
http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/
they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is
On May 14, 2013, at 15:53 , Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca
wrote:
On 13-05-14 13:06, Jay Ashworth wrote:
http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/
they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is either not
On 13-05-14 20:55, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Since when is peering not part of the Internet?
Yes, one car argue that an device with an IP address routable from the
internet is part of the internet.
But when traffic from a cahe server flows directly into an ISP's
intranet to end users, it
On May 14, 2013, at 21:14 , Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca
wrote:
On 13-05-14 20:55, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Since when is peering not part of the Internet?
Yes, one car argue that an device with an IP address routable from the
internet is part of the internet.
Can
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