Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm guessing you don't have any v4 to sell? If someone wants to give up their space of their own free will that's wonderful, but I think most are opting to sell their resources. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-09 Thread Noah
On Mon, 9 Aug 2021, 17:01 Josh Luthman, wrote: > Do you have any v4 addresses? If so, why don't you do 100% v6 and then > sell your v4 space for some extra cheddar? > Rather than sell v4, why not return to the registry for free for reallocation to those resource members with need.? Cheers,

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Do you have any v4 addresses? If so, why don't you do 100% v6 and then sell your v4 space for some extra cheddar? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:04 AM Musa Stephen Honlue wrote: > Why don’t you

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Musa Stephen Honlue
Why don’t you just deploy IPv6? If your upstream supports IPv6 excellent, just go ahead and ask an IPv6 link, pretty straightforward. Else if your upstream doesn’t do IPv6 yet, ask them to do so for you. And if they don’t want to do so, just pick one of your favorite transition mechanism and

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
The single biggest problem with IPv4 is NAT. The primary cause of NAT is address shortage. As such, I’d argue that IPv6 solves the two biggest problems with IPv4. Problem is that those who want to wait until everyone else moves forward before they do are a sufficient mass to severely hamper

RE: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
What is the average price per ip address for /24 with good reputation vs /24 with questionable reputation? Can you extrapolate too to /21 and /20? Jean From: NANOG On Behalf Of Tony Wicks Sent: August 5, 2021 4:08 PM To: 'NANOG' Subject: RE: Where to get IPv4 block these day

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Bjørn Mork
Randy Bush writes: > what i love most about the why ipv6 {has not deployed | does not work > for me | must be used immediately if not sooner | ...} is that it > provides such a rich field for posting to nanog etc. and folk think of > new brilliant discussion points every day. +1 The endless

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Randy Bush
>> It was intended to be an IPv4 replacement to provide connectivity. >> Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6? > Actually, yes. Many mobile networks are all v6 internally with NAT to > external v4 sites. what i love most about the why ipv6 {has not deployed | does not work for me |

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Tom Beecher
> > IPhones handsets this part of the world are not common handsets to > majority of the end-users who are not middle class folk and even most > middle class folk still settle for cost effective Android handsets. > Android has had IPv6 support for what,10 years now? (Ignoring the SLAAC vs DHCPv6

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread John Levine
It appears that Noah said: >It was intended to be an IPv4 replacement to provide connectivity. > >Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6? Actually, yes. Many mobile networks are all v6 internally with NAT to external v4 sites.

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Michael Thomas
On 8/6/21 8:35 AM, Fred Baker wrote: On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Noah wrote: Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6? Majority of people I know (due to economic factors) own lowend android handsets with no support for v6. This group forms majority of eyeballs that contribute

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Noah
On Fri, 6 Aug 2021, 18:35 Fred Baker, wrote: > > > > On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Noah wrote: > > > > Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6? > > > > Majority of people I know (due to economic factors) own lowend android > handsets with no support for v6. This group forms majority of

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Fred Baker
> On Aug 6, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Noah wrote: > > Do majority of smart handsets OS today support v6? > > Majority of people I know (due to economic factors) own lowend android > handsets with no support for v6. This group forms majority of eyeballs that > contribute revenue to local Telecoms

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Noah
On Fri, 6 Aug 2021, 18:11 Fred Baker, wrote: > > > > On Aug 6, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > > > v6 isn't a solution today for v4 problems. > > I don't know that IPv6 was ever intended to be a solution to IPv4 problems > per se. When a seed is planted in soil, a number of

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Fred Baker
> On Aug 6, 2021, at 6:48 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > v6 isn't a solution today for v4 problems. I don't know that IPv6 was ever intended to be a solution to IPv4 problems per se. It was intended to be an IPv4 replacement to provide connectivity. signature.asc Description: Message signed

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-06 Thread Josh Luthman
v6 isn't a solution today for v4 problems. Insults are not productive. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 5:31 PM Ca By wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 1:54 PM Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > >> *Sigh* >>

RE: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Tony Wicks
: NANOG Subject: Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day *sigh* I know you are lazy.

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Ca By
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 2:31 PM Ca By wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 1:54 PM Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > >> *Sigh* >> >> I hear you. Have IPv6 at home perfectly fine via Spectrum. >> >> At work however, my provider (Allo Communications in Lincoln, Neb., FTTH >> for 100% of the city, completely

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Ca By
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 1:54 PM Andy Ringsmuth wrote: > *Sigh* > > I hear you. Have IPv6 at home perfectly fine via Spectrum. > > At work however, my provider (Allo Communications in Lincoln, Neb., FTTH > for 100% of the city, completely brand new network in the last 5 years) is > stuck on CGNAT

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
*Sigh* I hear you. Have IPv6 at home perfectly fine via Spectrum. At work however, my provider (Allo Communications in Lincoln, Neb., FTTH for 100% of the city, completely brand new network in the last 5 years) is stuck on CGNAT and no IPv6 (unless you pay for IPv4 addresses which we of course

RE: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Tony Wicks
From: Ca By Sent: Friday, 6 August 2021 8:20 am To: Tony Wicks Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day *sigh* you are assuming the end user is being somehow lazy and incompetent and NOT also deploying IPV6? Seriously, you still need parallel deployment of IPV4

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Ca By
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 1:09 PM Tony Wicks wrote: > Contact eddie at iptrading.com , I have used their > services several times and never had any issues. > > > Yep, this what it has come to. “I got a guy” Just keep buying addresses and slamming in NAT boxes folks … Here is a meme

RE: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Tony Wicks
Contact eddie at iptrading.com , I have used their services several times and never had any issues. On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 23:35 Alex Wacker mailto:a...@alexwacker.com> > wrote: Ipv4.global is very reliable. I’ve sold blocks there On Thu, Aug 5, 2021

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Tina Morris
Note, those lists of brokers are not vetted for quality. They filled out a form, agreed to certain terms, and paid a fee to be listed. Do your research and ask for referrals. On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 07:51 Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > Been a while since I had to deal with NetOps stuff. Was

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Hank Nussbacher
Been a while since I had to deal with NetOps stuff. Was wondering, where do you go these days to get IPv4 blocks? It seems like getting assignments is hard due to exhaustion. I have found some "Auction" sites but it all feels very scammy. Any info would be

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Tina Morris
If you are also using the v4 space to facilitate IPv6 you can get some space from ARIN via the 4.10 policy. https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#4-10-dedicated-ipv4-block-to-facilitate-ipv6-deployment On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 23:35 Alex Wacker wrote: > Ipv4.global is very reliable.

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Alex Wacker
Ipv4.global is very reliable. I’ve sold blocks there On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 1:28 AM james jones wrote: > hey everyone, > > Been a while since I had to deal with NetOps stuff. Was wondering, where > do you go these days to get IPv4 blocks? It seems like getting assignments > is hard due to

Re: Where to get IPv4 block these day

2021-08-05 Thread Phineas
It depends on the urgency and application of the block. You can get on the ARIN waitlist for a /24 block - current wait time is around 2-3 months; we waited around 3 for ours to be fulfilled. They distribute them in timed blocks from when old customers churn or get suspended.