Bill Woodcock wo...@pch.net wrote:
The main unfortunate outcome is that the ITU has managed to get Study
Group 3 approved to try to figure out how to override peering agreements
with government-imposed settlements.
Do you have any citations for that? I thought they had given up on trying
to
On 19/12/2012 14:25, Tony Finch wrote:
Do you have any citations for that? I thought they had given up on trying
to interfere with Internet peering and settlement.
http://www.itu.int/net/ITU-T/lists/questions.aspx?Group=03Period=15
ETNO is very keen on introducing sending-party-pays, and
Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:
On 19/12/2012 14:25, Tony Finch wrote:
Do you have any citations for that? I thought they had given up on trying
to interfere with Internet peering and settlement.
http://www.itu.int/net/ITU-T/lists/questions.aspx?Group=03Period=15
Looks vaguely
On 19/12/2012 15:17, Tony Finch wrote:
Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:
On 19/12/2012 14:25, Tony Finch wrote:
Do you have any citations for that? I thought they had given up on trying
to interfere with Internet peering and settlement.
You can look at the final outcome yourself (no password needed), at
http://www.itu.int/en/wcit-12/Documents/final-acts-wcit-12.pdf
RESOLUTION PLEN/5 on page 27 (by PDF count, out of 30 pages) describes
work to be done by Study Group 3 and cooperating members. Note that the
resolution is not
On 12/14/2012 12:32 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
I don't forsee this debate dying any time soon.
What some of us have been saying since at least 2003 (if not earlier) is
that it will _never_ die. Free speech, and the opportunities that an
open Internet provide to the people who live in repressed
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:20:57PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
I'm certain that most of you have already noticed how cutting off the
Internet is now on page 1 of every country's list of Things to do when
there is an uprising ...
In Egypt, this may actually have led to the opposite of
On 12/16/2012 12:31 PM, Phil Regnauld wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:20:57PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
I'm certain that most of you have already noticed how cutting off the
Internet is now on page 1 of every country's list of Things to do when
there is an uprising ...
In Egypt,
not at all... the WCIT 2012 concluded without agreement. Hardly the same
thing.
/bill
? Again? ;)
From my Galaxy Note II, please excuse any mistakes.
Original message
From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
Date: 12/14/2012 11:44 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: North American Network Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org
Subject: btw, the itu imploded
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:41:48AM -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
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Yep. _Gloriously_! The US walked out, followed by bunchty others.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2020469/opponents-say-itu-treaty-threatens-internet-freedom.html
--
Mike Andrews, W5EGO
mi...@mikea.ath.cx
Tired
On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Mike A mi...@mikea.ath.cx wrote:
Yep. _Gloriously_! The US walked out, followed by bunchty others.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2020469/opponents-say-itu-treaty-threatens-internet-freedom.html
At current count, to the best of my incomplete knowledge,
See also: http://www.ipv.sx/wcit/
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
On 14/12/2012 19:51, Mike A wrote:
Yep. _Gloriously_! The US walked out, followed by bunchty others.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2020469/opponents-say-itu-treaty-threatens-internet-freedom.html
The ITU didn't implode and that article gives a ridiculously misleading
impression of what
WCIT-12 was but one exchange.
The next one is WTPF-13:
The World Telecommunication/Information and Communication Technology Policy
Forum (WTPF) is a high-level international event to exchange views on the key
policy issues arising from today's fast changing information and communication
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