Re: dns on fios/frontier
thanks for the fix, marla. [ sorry to be slow, i was out ] randy
RE: dns on fios/frontier
This issue has now been resolved. Cheers Marla Frontier Communications -Original Message- From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com] Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 11:48 AM To: Azinger, Marla Cc: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: dns on fios/frontier Looking into this and getting it to the right crew at Frontier. thanks, marla. the atlas probe nick found *seemed* to be able to ping, but not resolve dns. can i claim abuse when an old geek asks for ping or dig and gets back jason web glorp? it may be restful, but not on these old eyes. :) randy
Re: dns on fios/frontier
hurray! now it shows 2! (I didn't realize there was a fios user tag I could add to mine :( ) so i added th upstreams to my probe descriptions. but one, 2285, does not stick. interesting randy
Re: dns on fios/frontier
On 4/20/15, 1:54 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: [ reposted from subscribed address blush ] anyone on fios/frontier can please run a quickie and see if you can get to http://psg.com/? Works fine from FIOS in Dallas, TX: traceroute to psg.com (147.28.0.62), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 wireless_broadband_router.home (192.168.74.1) 0.955 ms 0.556 ms 0.466 ms 2 lo0-100.dllstx-vfttp-305.verizon-gni.net (108.19.21.1) 8.485 ms 6.878 ms 7.740 ms 3 t0-11-0-4.dllstx-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (100.41.202.110) 9.509 ms 9.147 ms t0-7-4-0.dllstx-lcr-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.218.82) 12.641 ms 4 * * * 5 0.ae2.br2.dfw13.alter.net (140.222.225.53) 11.300 ms 10.578 ms 9.156 ms 6 sl-st31-dal-.sprintlink.net (144.232.25.125) 12.739 ms 12.290 ms 12.203 ms 7 144.232.12.195 (144.232.12.195) 9.740 ms 144.232.11.207 (144.232.11.207) 13.921 ms 144.232.12.195 (144.232.12.195) 10.403 ms 8 144.232.12.138 (144.232.12.138) 27.853 ms 24.854 ms 24.937 ms 9 144.232.1.101 (144.232.1.101) 36.967 ms 35.642 ms 37.945 ms 10 144.232.10.186 (144.232.10.186) 39.913 ms 39.716 ms 39.950 ms 11 144.232.10.191 (144.232.10.191) 72.407 ms 72.032 ms 69.433 ms 12 sl-gw20-sea-11-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.60) 70.467 ms sl-gw20-sea-5-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.20.218) 67.034 ms 66.585 ms 13 144.232.9.62 (144.232.9.62) 69.903 ms 67.101 ms 67.374 ms 14 psg.com (147.28.0.62) 62.188 ms 64.435 ms 67.417 ms -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com
Re: dns on fios/frontier
works fine from uk folks Col On 20 Apr 2015, at 07:51, Randy Bush ra...@iij.ad.jp wrote: anyone on fios/frontier can please run a quickie and see if you can get to http://psg.com/? have a net friend who can not from multiple hosts on their home lan and he has rebooted router. called support and they showed their sunday best the web site is down. sigh. randy
Re: dns on fios/frontier
works fine from uk folks anyone on fios/frontier can please run a quickie ... ^^^ darned cool that you have frontier fios in the uk. glad frontier's local uk caches resolve. sigh randy
RE: dns on fios/frontier
Well, There are frontier users and there are fios users, and now there are frontier fios users (users that were customers of Verizon, but Verizon sold off part their infrastructure to frontier). Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd Director of Operations | Purchase, NY 10577 OTA Management LLC | Phone: 914-460-4039 aim: matthewbhuff | Fax: 914-694-5669 -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 11:42 AM To: Dave Pooser Cc: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: dns on fios/frontier On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Dave Pooser dave-na...@pooserville.com wrote: On 4/20/15, 1:54 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: [ reposted from subscribed address blush ] anyone on fios/frontier can please run a quickie and see if you can get to http://psg.com/? in the other message you make clear 'a frontier customer on the fios infrastructure'... you do mean that, not 'a frontier customer OR a verizon fios customer' right? (they don't share, necessarily, the same DNS or transit paths/equipment)
Re: dns on fios/frontier
in the other message you make clear 'a frontier customer on the fios infrastructure'... you do mean that, not 'a frontier customer OR a verizon fios customer' right? Ah. Obviously, that's not how I read it. ;-) But yes, I'm a bog-standard Verizon FIOS customer with no frontier connection at all. -- Dave Pooser Cat-Herder-in-Chief, Pooserville.com
Re: dns on fios/frontier
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Dave Pooser dave-na...@pooserville.com wrote: On 4/20/15, 1:54 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: [ reposted from subscribed address blush ] anyone on fios/frontier can please run a quickie and see if you can get to http://psg.com/? in the other message you make clear 'a frontier customer on the fios infrastructure'... you do mean that, not 'a frontier customer OR a verizon fios customer' right? (they don't share, necessarily, the same DNS or transit paths/equipment)
RE: dns on fios/frontier
Looking into this and getting it to the right crew at Frontier. Marla -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 8:42 AM To: Dave Pooser Cc: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: dns on fios/frontier On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Dave Pooser dave-na...@pooserville.com wrote: On 4/20/15, 1:54 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: [ reposted from subscribed address blush ] anyone on fios/frontier can please run a quickie and see if you can get to http://psg.com/? in the other message you make clear 'a frontier customer on the fios infrastructure'... you do mean that, not 'a frontier customer OR a verizon fios customer' right? (they don't share, necessarily, the same DNS or transit paths/equipment)
Re: dns on fios/frontier
Looking into this and getting it to the right crew at Frontier. thanks, marla. the atlas probe nick found *seemed* to be able to ping, but not resolve dns. can i claim abuse when an old geek asks for ping or dig and gets back jason web glorp? it may be restful, but not on these old eyes. :) randy
Re: dns on fios/frontier
On 20/04/2015 19:42, Randy Bush wrote: [ excuse abnormal cluelessness even for me. overwhelmed by mucous and it is the middle of the night here ] anyone on fios/frontier can please run a quickie and see if you can get to http://psg.com/? have a net friend who can not from multiple hosts on their home lan and he has rebooted router. called support and they showed their sunday best the web site is down. sigh. https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/13318/ two things. so how did you find it? erm, google: https://www.google.com/search?q=ripe+atlas+fios i was wondering if i could find a useful atlas probe or nlring node, and how to find them. you can specify an asn within the ripe atlas ui. secondly, i gotta snark that the ui maximizes the eurocracy to do a seemingly simple dig @probe psg.com. a and ping psg.com and it does not even serve coffee during the hour the dig and ping are running. (quaint use of the gerund). shrug talk to the atlas people about this. It's a tool written for high flexibility, but probably compressing this into a simple UI is difficult. The JSON interface is good though. Nick
Re: dns on fios/frontier
anyone on fios/frontier can please run a quickie and see if you can get
to http://psg.com/? have a net friend who can not from multiple hosts
on their home lan and he has rebooted router. called support and they
showed their sunday best the web site is down. sigh.
https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/13318/
two things.
so how did you find it? i was wondering if i could find a useful atlas
probe or nlring node, and how to find them.
https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/rest/#probe
or more specifically:
https://atlas.ripe.net/api/v1/probe/?tags=fios (it gives exactly one result
at the moment -- the above mentioned one. It's useful if people actually tag
their probes...)
About Ring: we're not authoritative -- I believe http://map.ring.nlnog.net/ is.
secondly, i gotta snark that the ui maximizes the eurocracy to do a
seemingly simple
dig @probe psg.com. a
and
ping psg.com
and it does not even serve coffee during the hour the dig and ping are
running. (quaint use of the gerund).
I'd like to draw attention to the one-off measurement feature, which
responds within 10-30 seconds or so.
Indeed, it serves no coffee :-(
i am not great at json, but looks to me as if it is a dns failure
[{from:74.106.249.162,fw:4680,group_id:1964819,lts:163,msm_id:1964820,msm_name:Tdig,prb_id:13318,resultset:[{af:4,dst_addr:10.0.0.13,lts:163,proto:UDP,result:{ANCOUNT:1,ARCOUNT:3,ID:61959,NSCOUNT:3,QDCOUNT:1,abuf:8geBgAABAAEAAwADA3BzZwNjb20AAAEAAcAMAAEAAQAADhAABJMcAD7ADAACAAEAAA4QAALADMAMAAIAAQAADhAAEgRubG5zB2dsb2JuaXgDbmV0AMAMAAIAAQAADhAABgNyaXDADMAMABwAAQAADhAAECABBBgAAQAAAGLAYQABAAEAApzNAASTHAAnwGEAHAABAAGYeQAQIAEEGAABOQ==,rt:175.454,size:175},src_addr:10.0.1.100,subid:1,submax:3,time:1429553733},{af:4,dst_addr:38.103.8.115,lts:164,proto:UDP,result:{ANCOUNT:1,ARCOUNT:3,ID:10350,NSCOUNT:3,QDCOUNT:1,abuf:KG6BgAABAAEAAwADA3BzZwNjb20AAAEAAcAMAAEAAQAADhAABJMcAD7ADAACAAEAAA4QAAYDcmlwwAzADAACAAEAAA4QAALADMAMAAIAAQAADhAAEgRubG5zB2dsb2JuaXgDbmV0AMAMABwAAQAADhAAECABBBgAAQAAAGLANQABAAEAAMIIAASTHAAnwDUAHAABAADCCAAQIAEEGAABOQ==,rt:370.067,size:175},src_addr:
1
0.0.1.100,subid:2,submax:3,time:1429553734},{af:6,dst_addr:2001:550:102:301::13,lts:165,proto:UDP,result:{ANCOUNT:1,ARCOUNT:3,ID:47682,NSCOUNT:3,QDCOUNT:1,abuf:ukKBgAABAAEAAwADA3BzZwNjb20AAAEAAcAMAAEAAQAADg4ABJMcAD7ADAACAAEAAA4OABIEbmxucwdnbG9ibml4A25ldADADAACAAEAAA4OAAYDcmlwwAzADAACAAEAAA4OAALADMAMABwAAQAADg4AECABBBgAAQAAAGLAUwABAAEAApzLAASTHAAnwFMAHAABAAGYdwAQIAEEGAABOQ==,rt:1.345,size:175},src_addr:2001:550:102:301::1001,subid:3,submax:3,time:1429553735}],timestamp:1429553733,type:dns}]
No, it's ok, see https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/1964820/#!map
looks pingable
[{af:4,avg:77.535333,dst_addr:147.28.0.62,dst_name:147.28.0.62,dup:0,from:74.106.249.162,fw:4680,group_id:1964819,lts:166,max:78.025,min:77.132,msm_id:1964819,msm_name:Ping,prb_id:13318,proto:ICMP,rcvd:3,result:[{rtt:78.025},{rtt:77.449},{rtt:77.132}],sent:3,size:48,src_addr:10.0.1.100,step:240,timestamp:1429553736,ttl:239,type:ping}]
Yep.
Cheers,
Robert
http://dnsviz.net/d/psg.com/dnssec/ thinks the dnssec glorp is fine.
randy
Re: dns on fios/frontier
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 03:42:46AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: so how did you find it? i was wondering if i could find a useful atlas probe or nlring node, and how to find them. There are no RING nodes in any of the verizon networks :-(
Re: dns on fios/frontier
I'd like to draw attention to the one-off measurement feature, which
responds within 10-30 seconds or so.
i clicked that button. maybe ten mins.
Indeed, it serves no coffee :-(
that is a serious issue.
i am not great at json, but looks to me as if it is a dns failure
[{from:74.106.249.162,fw:4680,group_id:1964819,lts:163,msm_id:1964820,msm_name:Tdig,prb_id:13318,resultset:[{af:4,dst_addr:10.0.0.13,lts:163,proto:UDP,result:{ANCOUNT:1,ARCOUNT:3,ID:61959,NSCOUNT:3,QDCOUNT:1,abuf:8geBgAABAAEAAwADA3BzZwNjb20AAAEAAcAMAAEAAQAADhAABJMcAD7ADAACAAEAAA4QAALADMAMAAIAAQAADhAAEgRubG5zB2dsb2JuaXgDbmV0AMAMAAIAAQAADhAABgNyaXDADMAMABwAAQAADhAAECABBBgAAQAAAGLAYQABAAEAApzNAASTHAAnwGEAHAABAAGYeQAQIAEEGAABOQ==,rt:175.454,size:175},src_addr:10.0.1.100,subid:1,submax:3,time:1429553733},{af:4,dst_addr:38.103.8.115,lts:164,proto:UDP,result:{ANCOUNT:1,ARCOUNT:3,ID:10350,NSCOUNT:3,QDCOUNT:1,abuf:KG6BgAABAAEAAwADA3BzZwNjb20AAAEAAcAMAAEAAQAADhAABJMcAD7ADAACAAEAAA4QAAYDcmlwwAzADAACAAEAAA4QAALADMAMAAIAAQAADhAAEgRubG5zB2dsb2JuaXgDbmV0AMAMABwAAQAADhAAECABBBgAAQAAAGLANQABAAEAAMIIAASTHAAnwDUAHAABAADCCAAQIAEEGAABOQ==,rt:370.067,size:175},src_addr
:
1
0.0.1.100,subid:2,submax:3,time:1429553734},{af:6,dst_addr:2001:550:102:301::13,lts:165,proto:UDP,result:{ANCOUNT:1,ARCOUNT:3,ID:47682,NSCOUNT:3,QDCOUNT:1,abuf:ukKBgAABAAEAAwADA3BzZwNjb20AAAEAAcAMAAEAAQAADg4ABJMcAD7ADAACAAEAAA4OABIEbmxucwdnbG9ibml4A25ldADADAACAAEAAA4OAAYDcmlwwAzADAACAAEAAA4OAALADMAMABwAAQAADg4AECABBBgAAQAAAGLAUwABAAEAApzLAASTHAAnwFMAHAABAAGYdwAQIAEEGAABOQ==,rt:1.345,size:175},src_addr:2001:550:102:301::1001,subid:3,submax:3,time:1429553735}],timestamp:1429553733,type:dns}]
No, it's ok, see https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/1964820/#!map
in what way is it ok? that url gives me a nice map of europe.
and a grep for psg.com's ipv4 or ipv6 addy in the json result fails.
randy
RE: dns on fios/frontier
Sounds like you're talking to my dad. Tell him I said hi. Chuck -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bush Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 2:45 PM To: Christopher Morrow Cc: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: dns on fios/frontier in the other message you make clear 'a frontier customer on the fios infrastructure'... you do mean that, not 'a frontier customer OR a verizon fios customer' right? end user with the problem said verizon/frontier. and they are very end user. debugging with them is a joy. randy
Re: dns on fios/frontier
[ excuse abnormal cluelessness even for me. overwhelmed by mucous and
it is the middle of the night here ]
anyone on fios/frontier can please run a quickie and see if you can get
to http://psg.com/? have a net friend who can not from multiple hosts
on their home lan and he has rebooted router. called support and they
showed their sunday best the web site is down. sigh.
https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/13318/
two things.
so how did you find it? i was wondering if i could find a useful atlas
probe or nlring node, and how to find them.
secondly, i gotta snark that the ui maximizes the eurocracy to do a
seemingly simple
dig @probe psg.com. a
and
ping psg.com
and it does not even serve coffee during the hour the dig and ping are
running. (quaint use of the gerund).
i am not great at json, but looks to me as if it is a dns failure
[{from:74.106.249.162,fw:4680,group_id:1964819,lts:163,msm_id:1964820,msm_name:Tdig,prb_id:13318,resultset:[{af:4,dst_addr:10.0.0.13,lts:163,proto:UDP,result:{ANCOUNT:1,ARCOUNT:3,ID:61959,NSCOUNT:3,QDCOUNT:1,abuf:8geBgAABAAEAAwADA3BzZwNjb20AAAEAAcAMAAEAAQAADhAABJMcAD7ADAACAAEAAA4QAALADMAMAAIAAQAADhAAEgRubG5zB2dsb2JuaXgDbmV0AMAMAAIAAQAADhAABgNyaXDADMAMABwAAQAADhAAECABBBgAAQAAAGLAYQABAAEAApzNAASTHAAnwGEAHAABAAGYeQAQIAEEGAABOQ==,rt:175.454,size:175},src_addr:10.0.1.100,subid:1,submax:3,time:1429553733},{af:4,dst_addr:38.103.8.115,lts:164,proto:UDP,result:{ANCOUNT:1,ARCOUNT:3,ID:10350,NSCOUNT:3,QDCOUNT:1,abuf:KG6BgAABAAEAAwADA3BzZwNjb20AAAEAAcAMAAEAAQAADhAABJMcAD7ADAACAAEAAA4QAAYDcmlwwAzADAACAAEAAA4QAALADMAMAAIAAQAADhAAEgRubG5zB2dsb2JuaXgDbmV0AMAMABwAAQAADhAAECABBBgAAQAAAGLANQABAAEAAMIIAASTHAAnwDUAHAABAADCCAAQIAEEGAABOQ==,rt:370.067,size:175},src_addr:1
0.0.1.100,subid:2,submax:3,time:1429553734},{af:6,dst_addr:2001:550:102:301::13,lts:165,proto:UDP,result:{ANCOUNT:1,ARCOUNT:3,ID:47682,NSCOUNT:3,QDCOUNT:1,abuf:ukKBgAABAAEAAwADA3BzZwNjb20AAAEAAcAMAAEAAQAADg4ABJMcAD7ADAACAAEAAA4OABIEbmxucwdnbG9ibml4A25ldADADAACAAEAAA4OAAYDcmlwwAzADAACAAEAAA4OAALADMAMABwAAQAADg4AECABBBgAAQAAAGLAUwABAAEAApzLAASTHAAnwFMAHAABAAGYdwAQIAEEGAABOQ==,rt:1.345,size:175},src_addr:2001:550:102:301::1001,subid:3,submax:3,time:1429553735}],timestamp:1429553733,type:dns}]
looks pingable
[{af:4,avg:77.535333,dst_addr:147.28.0.62,dst_name:147.28.0.62,dup:0,from:74.106.249.162,fw:4680,group_id:1964819,lts:166,max:78.025,min:77.132,msm_id:1964819,msm_name:Ping,prb_id:13318,proto:ICMP,rcvd:3,result:[{rtt:78.025},{rtt:77.449},{rtt:77.132}],sent:3,size:48,src_addr:10.0.1.100,step:240,timestamp:1429553736,ttl:239,type:ping}]
http://dnsviz.net/d/psg.com/dnssec/ thinks the dnssec glorp is fine.
randy
Re: dns on fios/frontier
in the other message you make clear 'a frontier customer on the fios infrastructure'... you do mean that, not 'a frontier customer OR a verizon fios customer' right? end user with the problem said verizon/frontier. and they are very end user. debugging with them is a joy. randy
Re: dns on fios/frontier
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 08:57:58PM +0200, Robert Kisteleki wrote: About Ring: we're not authoritative -- I believe http://map.ring.nlnog.net/ is. I recommend our API: https://ring.nlnog.net/api/1.0/nodes
Re: dns on fios/frontier
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Robert Kisteleki rob...@ripe.net wrote: so how did you find it? i was wondering if i could find a useful atlas probe or nlring node, and how to find them. https://atlas.ripe.net/docs/rest/#probe or more specifically: https://atlas.ripe.net/api/v1/probe/?tags=fios (it gives exactly one result at the moment -- the above mentioned one. It's useful if people actually tag their probes...) hurray! now it shows 2! (I didn't realize there was a fios user tag I could add to mine :( ) there are also 8 probes shown in your just search for 'fios' in the probes list...
