Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-18 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com writes: - Original Message - From: Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net network side. I'm personally not convinced of the value of very short lease times (less than an hour) Less than an hour, perhaps not. On small residential networks, though --

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Martin Hotze
Hi, the wireless itself is not the big problem, most of your devices (Mac) will be the problem (BTDTGNS). And my wild guess is that mobile phones will also be mostly iphones, plus some ipads. ZyXEL has good WLAN controllers, as does LANCOM. Both have very good products for the money. No need

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hi I personally feel more then devices what matters is topology in deployment. I have used Cisco AP's and they are pretty much fine. Ubnt - true used lot more for outside wifi deployment specially for point to point (and multipoint links). You need to do a bit of site survey to get idea of how

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Martin Hotze
...@anuragbhatia.com] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 4:44 PM To: Martin Hotze Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: enterprise 802.11 (...) You need to do a bit of site survey to get idea of how many AP's you really need. Remember it's open spectrum and running different bands from adjacent AP's, you get

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Greg Ihnen
To: Meftah Tayeb Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: enterprise 802.11 Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com) has their Unifi line of products. It's still pretty new in the marketspace and this, working out the bugs. I use their other products exclusively for outdoor wireless. However, in the offices ive done

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Tim Franklin
As for the iOS problem, read on here: http://www.net.princeton.edu/apple-ios/ios41-allows-lease-to-expire-keeps-using-IP-address.html That's the iOS issue - out of curiosity, what's the Mac issue? Regards, Tim.

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jan 16, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Tim Franklin wrote: As for the iOS problem, read on here: http://www.net.princeton.edu/apple-ios/ios41-allows-lease-to-expire-keeps-using-IP-address.html That's the iOS issue - out of curiosity, what's the Mac issue? That's a poorly maintained device issue.

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/15/12 11:30 , Ken King wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space. what are the thoughts these days on

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Brent Jones
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space.

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net network side. I'm personally not convinced of the value of very short lease times (less than an hour) Less than an hour, perhaps not. On small residential networks, though -- generally, anything where the router (which

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Jon Sevier
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space.

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
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Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Chris Burwell
you some gold to get it. Nathan -Original Message- From: Mike Lyon [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:54 AM To: Meftah Tayeb Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: enterprise 802.11 Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com) has their Unifi line of products. It's still pretty

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-16 Thread Troy Martin
Why not avoid controllers entirely? I recommend Aerohive. In their solution, there is NO controller, rather the APs communicate with each other. (Imagine what OSPF would be like with a centralized router) Check them out www.aerohive.com Kindest regards, Troy Sent from my iPhone. Apologies

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Meftah Tayeb
Ubiquity or ubikity, maybe is miss spelled Someone correct the spelling for him please thank you - Original Message - From: Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:30 PM Subject: enterprise 802.11 I need to choose a wireless solution for a

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Mike Lyon
Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com) has their Unifi line of products. It's still pretty new in the marketspace and this, working out the bugs. I use their other products exclusively for outdoor wireless. However, in the offices ive done, ive used Cisco's WLC 4402 controller which supports 12 access points.

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Mike Hale
Cisco's wireless solutions are pretty badass. The APs I've used are absolutely rock solid. Set up will take a bit of time, but once you're done, maintenance is minimal. On Jan 15, 2012 11:54 AM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com) has their Unifi line of products. It's

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
. And then, yes, Cisco is the gold standard, but it will cost you some gold to get it. Nathan -Original Message- From: Mike Lyon [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:54 AM To: Meftah Tayeb Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: enterprise 802.11 Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Seth Mos
Hi, We chose the 3Com, now H3C wx3012 controller and AP9552 accesspoints. Initial issues where that blackberries could not connect to the wifi, the support initially was mediocre. Do note that this was at the time that everything got sold to HP. And they did pick up the issue and came around

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Leigh Porter
I use ruckus in town and city installs and despite rather a lot of other APs it performs very well. I don't have experience of them in high connected station density though. -- Leigh Porter On 15 Jan 2012, at 19:33, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
I'd recommend Aruba. Not a fan of the Cisco wifi controller gear. On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Network IP Dog
Meraki... ;^) http://www.meraki.com/ Ephesians 4:32Cheers!!! -Original Message- From: Ken King [mailto:kk...@yammer-inc.com] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:31 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: enterprise 802.11 I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Meftah Tayeb
cisco made the controller only to buy it? ubiquity or Mikrotik. END! - Original Message - From: Rafael Rodriguez packetjoc...@gmail.com To: Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:31 PM Subject: Re: enterprise 802.11 I'd recommend Aruba

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Shahab Vahabzadeh
Any body tried Proxim ORiNOCO AP-8000, I have them in two airport and they really sucks ;) On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Joe Johnson
Meraki... ;^) Seconded! Joe Johnson Chief Information Officer Riverside Consulting Group, Ltd. Innovative Technology Solutions 365 Addison Road Riverside, Illinois 60546 Phone: 708.442.6033 x3456 Fax: 708.443.4496 j...@riversidecg.com www.riversidecg.com

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Stefan
+1 f/Aruba ... and check out the BlackHat conferences, also. On Jan 15, 2012 3:31 PM, Rafael Rodriguez packetjoc...@gmail.com wrote: I'd recommend Aruba. Not a fan of the Cisco wifi controller gear. On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Brent Jones
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space.

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Scott Bethke
On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Joe Johnson wrote: Meraki... ;^) Seconded! I'd like to stick my neck out for Meraki also.. They rock. -Scott

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Greg Ihnen
@nanog.org Subject: Re: enterprise 802.11 Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com) has their Unifi line of products. It's still pretty new in the marketspace and this, working out the bugs. I use their other products exclusively for outdoor wireless. However, in the offices ive done, ive used Cisco's WLC

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread David Casey
I like Cisco's WLC's as well. Where I am working we have a few hundred AP's at one of our sites with WLC's running the show. The 5500 controllers with CleanAir AP's is awesome. Dave Sent from my iPad On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:57, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com wrote: Cisco's wireless

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Since we're already top-posting… I've heard a lot of talk on the WISPA (wireless ISP) forum that 802.11g/n starts to fall apart with more than 30 clients associated if they're all reasonably active. I believe this is a

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Justin Krejci
: Re: enterprise 802.11 Since we're already top-posting… I've heard a lot of talk on the WISPA (wireless ISP) forum that 802.11g/n starts to fall apart with more than 30 clients associated if they're all reasonably active. I believe this is a limitation of 802.11g/n's media access control (MAC

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Roy
On 1/15/2012 11:30 AM, Ken King wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space. what are the thoughts these days on the

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Making APs as low power and local as possible is good advice ^ Ignoring this advice is one of the biggest mistakes people make. They think Oh, I'll just drown out the noise, but the problem is almost never how well the clients can see the AP - it's the AP seeing the clients. It's hard to

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 21:30, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect.  most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space. what