On 01/29/2011 01:00 PM, Mike wrote:
Hello,
My company is small clec / broadband provider serving rural communities
in northern California, and we are the recipient of a small grant from
the state thru our public utilities commission. We went out to 'middle
of nowhere' and deployed adsl2+ in
On 29/01/11 11:36 AM, Roy wrote:
On 1/29/2011 10:00 AM, Mike wrote:
The rub is, that they want to legislate that web based
'speedtest.com' is the ONLY and MOST AUTHORITATIVE metric that trumps
all other considerations
You took the state's money so you are stuck with their dumb
On 29/01/11 10:00 -0800, Mike wrote:
The rub is, that they want to legislate that web based
'speedtest.com' is the ONLY and MOST AUTHORITATIVE metric that trumps
all other considerations and that the provider is %100 at fault and
responsible for making fraudulent claims if speedtest.com
Mike, nothing is perfect, so let's just start with that. What the FCC has done
to measure this is to partner with Sam Knows and then have friendly DSL subs
for the participating telcos to run modified CPE firmware to test against their
servers. We have been collecting data for this for the past
I think the big deal here is the 100% thing. If Speedtest is one of many
tests, then I don't particularly see the problem.
It shouldn't be any more difficult to convince politicians that any system
(testing or otherwise) can have problems than it is to convince them of any
other hard fact.
We've learned to pick our fights, and this isn't one of them.
--
Dan White
The most effective mechanism I've seen for explaining the problem is latency
and VOIP. Set up an artificially latency-ridden, high bandwidth connection,
then connect to a PBX using a softphone. One call is
On 1/29/2011 10:00 AM, Mike wrote:
Hello,
My company is small clec / broadband provider serving rural
communities in northern California, and we are the recipient of a
small grant from the state thru our public utilities commission. We
went out to 'middle of nowhere' and deployed adsl2+
Mike wrote:
The rub is, that they want to legislate that web based 'speedtest.com'
is the ONLY and MOST AUTHORITATIVE metric that trumps all other
considerations and that the provider is %100 at fault and responsible
for making fraudulent claims if speedtest.com doesn't agree.
speedtest.net?
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:00:36AM -0800, Mike wrote:
issue, how do we go about getting 'the message' across, how do we go
about engineering something that could be considered statistically
relevant, and most importantly, how do we get this to be accepted by
non-technical legislators and
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Jeff Richmond jeff.richm...@gmail.com wrote:
Mike, nothing is perfect, so let's just start with that. What the FCC has
done to measure this is to partner with Sam Knows and then have friendly DSL
subs for the participating telcos to run modified CPE firmware
Morning Mike,
The *New Zealand Government* don't use speedtest.net as a benchmark.
Our Government uses a consulting company to provide a range of tests
that address the issues you're talking about and benchmarks are
published each year. http://www.comcom.govt.nz/broadband-reports
The user
Configure your DNS server so that speedtest.net and every variation to point
to the Speedtest that you host...
Frank
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From: Mike [mailto:mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:01 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: help needed - state of california
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, Don Gould wrote:
Ok, that's enough for now. I hope this helps and let me know if you
need any more assistance.
In Sweden, Bredbandskollen.se (translates to Broadband check) rules
supreme. It uses two parallell TCP sessions to measure speed, and the
whole industry has
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