Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-10 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Martin Hannigan wrote: > The only question I have is a context switch. Why Mogadishu? Do the (sea) > pirates need more capacity to manage their ship hijacking business? Because ethiopia is the effectively land-locked economic power in the neighborhood and it needs diverse landing sites. Also I

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-10 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 11/08/2009 00:24, Martin Hannigan wrote: The only question I have is a context switch. Why Mogadishu? Do the (sea) pirates need more capacity to manage their ship hijacking business? The indications are that Somalia has been improving over the past year or two. If this continues, then it m

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-10 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > americans are a bit naive about the rest of the world Not the Americans who provided a large chunk of capital and are managing SEACOM. Short summary: The operator is anticipating that South Africa and Kenya alone are going to utilize 85%

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-10 Thread Joe Provo
[Followups set to futures as organization discussion.] On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 08:13:55AM -0400, William Allen Simpson wrote: > Eric Brunner-Williams wrote: > >above link, and routing, at transport, there is a tld effort as well. > > > >Randy Bush wrote: > >>yes. informally, a fair number of nan

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-10 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 09:49:51PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/10/business/global/10cable.html > > if seacom completes, and it is looking likely (yay!), this will be great. > but > > Alan Mauldin, research director at TeleGeography, a telecommunications > m

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-10 Thread Randy Bush
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/10/business/global/10cable.html if seacom completes, and it is looking likely (yay!), this will be great. but Alan Mauldin, research director at TeleGeography, a telecommunications market research company, said Africa was the last major area where broa

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-10 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On that note, folks might want to see http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/10/business/global/10cable.html

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-10 Thread William Allen Simpson
Eric Brunner-Williams wrote: above link, and routing, at transport, there is a tld effort as well. Randy Bush wrote: yes. informally, a fair number of nanogians have spent the last few decades doing tech transfer to the developing economies, including helping start sister groups such as afnog.

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-09 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
above link, and routing, at transport, there is a tld effort as well. Randy Bush wrote: Does NANOG have an outreach and construction program? yes. informally, a fair number of nanogians have spent the last few decades doing tech transfer to the developing economies, including helping sta

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-09 Thread Randy Bush
> Does NANOG have an outreach and construction program? yes. informally, a fair number of nanogians have spent the last few decades doing tech transfer to the developing economies, including helping start sister groups such as afnog. nanog participates with arin in a bursary to bring engineers f

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-09 Thread William Allen Simpson
Nick Hilliard wrote: On 08/08/2009 18:09, William Allen Simpson wrote: Not in a long time. My memory is that SAT-3 was supposed to be a nice cooperative effort funded by the nations themselves, rather than an outside investor. With cooperation, I'd have expected good peering. Indeed, it is a c

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-09 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 08/08/2009 18:09, William Allen Simpson wrote: Not in a long time. My memory is that SAT-3 was supposed to be a nice cooperative effort funded by the nations themselves, rather than an outside investor. With cooperation, I'd have expected good peering. Indeed, it is a co-operative affair own

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-08 Thread William Allen Simpson
William Allen Simpson wrote: By the map in the article, the termini are Spain and Portugal on one end, and South Africa on the other. Surely, a single break wouldn't affect both ends A week later article by the BBC says it didn't. Rather, the Benin branch has the break. http://news.bbc.c

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-08-07 Thread Randy Bush
>> http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/07/2009730775992910.html > Surely, for a major investment like this, both ends have peers with others? never actually looked at the problems of african networking, have you? randy

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-07-30 Thread William Allen Simpson
Randy Bush wrote: better lay coverage in al jazeera http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/07/2009730775992910.html Thanks, Randy. Making this more on-topic, the map show many hops down. How can a single cut affect more than 1 hop, those on either side of the cut? Surely, for a major

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-07-30 Thread Dan White
Jorge Amodio wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Warren Bailey wrote: In other news, Nigerian Scams at an all time low this morning/afternoon. Since some time ago I've been getting them through .cn sites and new variants like "I won the $500K Toyota Bingo" ?? ... can't believe that

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-07-30 Thread Jorge Amodio
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Warren Bailey wrote: > In other news, Nigerian Scams at an all time low this morning/afternoon. Since some time ago I've been getting them through .cn sites and new variants like "I won the $500K Toyota Bingo" ?? ... can't believe that still some people fall for th

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-07-30 Thread sthaug
> In other news, Nigerian Scams at an all time low this morning/afternoon. Unfortunately a lot of the Nigerian scams run out of Dutch coffee shops/internet cafes and thus won't be affected. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-07-30 Thread Warren Bailey
Article said 2 weeks. - Original Message - From: Rod Beck To: Randy Bush ; North American Network Operators Group ; AfNOG Sent: Thu Jul 30 04:14:15 2009 Subject: RE: sat-3 cut? I wonder how long it will take to get a ship there ... Regards, Roderick S. Beck Director of European

RE: sat-3 cut?

2009-07-30 Thread Rod Beck
I wonder how long it will take to get a ship there ... Regards, Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic -Original Message- From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com] Sent: Thu 7/30/2009 1:10 PM To: North American Network Operators Group; AfNOG Subject: sat-3 cut?

RE: sat-3 cut?

2009-07-30 Thread Warren Bailey
In other news, Nigerian Scams at an all time low this morning/afternoon. ;) From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com] Sent: Thu 7/30/2009 4:10 AM To: North American Network Operators Group; AfNOG Subject: sat-3 cut? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/81760

Re: sat-3 cut?

2009-07-30 Thread Randy Bush
better lay coverage in al jazeera http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2009/07/2009730775992910.html randy