On May 14, 2009, at 8:37 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
[TLB:] I can think of an argument they might make: that it is/could
be
used by bots as a fallback. However, redirecting DNS/UDP fits the
model
of providing a better service for the average user;
blocking/redirecting TCP is more likely to
And what's the next protocol that is going to be stomped on?
Anything except http; at which point everything will move to http, and
the firewalls are again useless.
Um, if you think that http on consumer networks is transparent, I have
some really bad news for you.
Regards,
John
Anything traversing the edge. They are all revenue targets.
Best,
Martin
On 5/14/09, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:
In message 20090514223605.88104.qm...@simone.iecc.com, John Levine writes:
Dear Sprint EVDO people,
Your man-in-the-middle hijacking of UDP/53 DNS queries
Subject: Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed
garden] Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:10:26AM +0100 Quoting John R. Levine
(jo...@iecc.com):
And what's the next protocol that is going to be stomped on?
Anything except http; at which point everything will move
On May 14, 2009, at 10:07 PM, Mans Nilsson wrote:
Subject: Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the
wall[ed garden] Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 09:58:32AM +1000 Quoting
Mark Andrews (mark_andr...@isc.org):
And what's the next protocol that is going to be stomped
...@seastrom.com
Subject: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed
garden]
Dear Sprint EVDO people,
Your man-in-the-middle hijacking of UDP/53 DNS queries against
nameservers that I choose to query from my laptop on Sprint EVDO is
not appreciated. Even less appreciated is your
ports.
My answer was VNP/tunnel everything.
-Original Message-
From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@iecc.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:36 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Cc: r...@seastrom.com
Subject: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed
garden]
Dear Sprint EVDO people
In message 20090514223605.88104.qm...@simone.iecc.com, John Levine writes:
Dear Sprint EVDO people,
Your man-in-the-middle hijacking of UDP/53 DNS queries against
nameservers that I choose to query from my laptop on Sprint EVDO is
not appreciated. Even less appreciated is your complete
: another brick in the
wall[ed
garden]
In message 20090514223605.88104.qm...@simone.iecc.com, John Levine
writes:
Dear Sprint EVDO people,
Your man-in-the-middle hijacking of UDP/53 DNS queries against
nameservers that I choose to query from my laptop on Sprint EVDO is
not appreciated. Even less
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:
If I were an ISP, and I knew that approximately 99.9% of customer
queries to random name servers was malware doing fake site phishing or
misconfigured PCs that will work OK and avoid a support call if they
answer the DNS
To: John Levine
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; r...@seastrom.com
Subject: Re: you're not interesting,was Re: another brick in the
wall[ed
garden]
In message 20090514223605.88104.qm...@simone.iecc.com, John Levine
writes:
Dear Sprint EVDO people,
Your man-in-the-middle hijacking of UDP/53 DNS
Subject: Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed
garden] Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 09:58:32AM +1000 Quoting Mark Andrews
(mark_andr...@isc.org):
And what's the next protocol that is going to be stomped on?
Anything except http; at which point everything
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