Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-23 Thread Jared Geiger
Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:56:47 PM Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers Nor will the fact that your particular trunking provider is local, so

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers Nor will the fact that your particular trunking provider is local, so I’m not sure what you seek to accomplish, then. Owen On Jul 23, 2015, at 12:24 , Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net wrote: I have several Asterisk VMs running in my own facility

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-23 Thread Mike Hammett
- From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 8:04:24 AM Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers Why not set up a small Asterisk box in a local datacenter and only trunk out the non-local calls? Owen On Jul 20, 2015, at 03

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-21 Thread Curtis Maurand
That may be true of metro areas, but in rural USA there's plenty of TDM to go around. Telco's are still delivering broadband on ADSL and phone on TDM. Worse those trunked circuits are TDM over HDSL. In many rural areas, there's not even ADSL or cable and that's within 40 miles of a small

RE: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Nathan Anderson
: SIP trunking providers I too am looking for the Chicago area. Low volume. I'm looking for people whose SIP and RTP hit the end of the road in Chicago. Not interested in someone whose SIP servers are in LA , but will redirect me to the nearest gateway... without telling me where said gateway

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Mike Hammett
: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:11:37 AM Subject: RE: SIP trunking providers Maybe I'm missing something here, but what does it matter if the RTP from your perspective ends in Chicago or not? If it does end in Chicago, that only means they are proxying the audio before sending

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Owen DeLong
. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Nathan Anderson nath...@fsr.com To: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:11:37 AM Subject: RE: SIP trunking providers Maybe I'm

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Joe Greco
Why not set up a small Asterisk box in a local datacenter and only trunk = out the non-local calls? And do what with the local calls, then? You're still left with the problem of getting calls to and from the PSTN. Not everyone wants to deal with the hassle of dealing with POTS or T1

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 20, 2015, at 06:21 , Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote: Why not set up a small Asterisk box in a local datacenter and only trunk = out the non-local calls? And do what with the local calls, then? You're still left with the problem of getting calls to and from the PSTN. Not

RE: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Naslund, Steve
End to end delay is not the most limiting factor. Jitter is the issue and packet drops are the other issue that matters (more importantly the distribution of drops). I think the best reason to select the local provider over the distant one is that the sooner he gets off the IP network the

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Rafael Possamai
When I originally posted the thread, I had asked Chicago due to physical proximity, and my assumption being the lesser the number of hops, the lower the probability of running into issues (latency, jitter and congestion). On the other hand, one of my sandboxes are out of Las Vegas and I haven't

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Chris Garrett
gateway is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:40:48 PM Subject: SIP trunking providers Would anyone in the list

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Owen DeLong
FWIW, I don’t know where their root nodes are or where their proxies are located, but I’ve had excellent service from CallCentric for several years. They’ve just plain worked everywhere I’ve tried in first-world countries and generally fairly well even in places that were network challenged like

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread James Cloos
MH == Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net writes: MH I too am looking for the Chicago area. Low volume. I'm looking for MH people whose SIP and RTP hit the end of the road in Chicago. Not MH interested in someone whose SIP servers are in LA , but will redirect MH me to the nearest gateway... without

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Owen DeLong
The TDM network is rapidly being eliminated. The major telcos have been moving their backbones to VOIP and higher levels of oversubscription as a result for years now because of the very large cost savings that can be achieved. International TDM may still be pretty common, but domestic TDM is

RE: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Nathan Anderson
[nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett [na...@ics-il.net] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 3:36 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers I want the gateway in Chicago as well. I am Chicago based. The end users are Chicago based. Therefore the origination would be coming

RE: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-20 Thread Nathan Anderson
, 2015 6:49 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: SIP trunking providers End to end delay is not the most limiting factor. Jitter is the issue and packet drops are the other issue that matters (more importantly the distribution of drops). I think the best reason to select the local provider over

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:40:48 PM Subject: SIP trunking providers Would anyone in the list be able to recommend a SIP trunk provider

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-07-19 Thread Dovid Bender
Almost every itsp will do that to your traffic regardless of where you see it going. Under 100ms and you won't even notice it. --Original Message-- From: Mike Hammett Sender: NANOG Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: SIP trunking providers Sent: Jul 19, 2015 16:04 I too am looking

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-06-20 Thread Rafael Possamai
Thanks everyone for your responses. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote: Would anyone in the list be able to recommend a SIP trunk provider in the Chicago area? Not a VoIP expert, so just looking for someone with previous experience. Thanks, Rafael

SIP trunking providers

2015-06-19 Thread Rafael Possamai
Would anyone in the list be able to recommend a SIP trunk provider in the Chicago area? Not a VoIP expert, so just looking for someone with previous experience. Thanks, Rafael

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-06-19 Thread Dovid Bender
Jivetel.com --Original Message-- From: Rafael Possamai Sender: NANOG To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: SIP trunking providers Sent: Jun 19, 2015 17:40 Would anyone in the list be able to recommend a SIP trunk provider in the Chicago area? Not a VoIP expert, so just looking for someone

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-06-19 Thread James Laszko
We have facilities in Chicago and LAX based on Broadsoft technology that I think is pretty awesome. Would welcome answering any questions for you Regards, James Laszko Mythos Technology Inc jam...@mythostech.com 951-813-2674 direct Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2015, at 14:43,

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-06-19 Thread James Laszko
Sorry, intended for off-list reply. Sorry for noise. James Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2015, at 18:37, James Laszko jam...@mythostech.com wrote: We have facilities in Chicago and LAX based on Broadsoft technology that I think is pretty awesome. Would welcome answering any questions

Re: SIP trunking providers

2015-06-19 Thread Mike Lyon
Flowroute.com On Jun 19, 2015 6:42 PM, James Laszko jam...@mythostech.com wrote: Sorry, intended for off-list reply. Sorry for noise. James Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2015, at 18:37, James Laszko jam...@mythostech.com wrote: We have facilities in Chicago and LAX based on