Re: Smokeping - EchoPingHttps

2021-10-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Noted. I transitioned over to the curl plugin and sites that didn't work now 
do. Some sites had a lower time, while some had a higher. 


The value of the time isn't so important to me as what it does over time. 




Thanks. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

- Original Message -

From: "John Adams"  
To: "Mike Hammett"  
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list"  
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 8:21:36 PM 
Subject: Re: Smokeping - EchoPingHttps 


I sort of feel like echopinghttps is a near 20-year old tool with little to no 
bearing on the reality of where TLS is today. 


The owner of this tool has discontinued it ( see 
https://github.com/bortzmeyer/echoping ) and it is no longer maintained. I 
wouldn't rely on it anymore. 


-john 




On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 4:26 PM Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I used EchoPingHttps for the first time today. 


I pulled up the top 20 sites (well, removing duplicate sites from the same 
company) from Alexa and put them in to trend response times. I've had "this 
feels slow" over the years, but no way to really track that other than feels 
and pings. 


I noticed that a few (Facebook, Salesforce, ESPN, and Zillow) don't chart at 
all, with varying errors in a smokeping --debug. I've noticed that a couple 
more (Amazon and Etsy) are fickle in their responses. I assume if they're not 
responding, they're poo pooing on my fake client. Am I in the right ballpark? 




Next, is there a better way of doing this? I saw the curl plugin, but it was 
only after I had seen EchoPingHttps, so maybe curl is "better." 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 






Re: Smokeping - EchoPingHttps

2021-10-21 Thread Douglas Vought via NANOG

As to the user agents issue, take your pick:

https://techblog.willshouse.com/2012/01/03/most-common-user-agents/

and see if you find a difference


On 10/20/2021 7:24 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

I used EchoPingHttps for the first time today.

I pulled up the top 20 sites (well, removing duplicate sites from the 
same company) from Alexa and put them in to trend response times. I've 
had "this feels slow" over the years, but no way to really track that 
other than feels and pings.


I noticed that a few (Facebook, Salesforce, ESPN, and Zillow) don't 
chart at all, with varying errors in a smokeping --debug. I've noticed 
that a couple more (Amazon and Etsy) are fickle in their responses. I 
assume if they're not responding, they're poo pooing on my fake 
client. Am I in the right ballpark?



Next, is there a better way of doing this? I saw the curl plugin, but 
it was only after I had seen EchoPingHttps, so maybe curl is "better."




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com


Re: Smokeping - EchoPingHttps

2021-10-20 Thread John Adams
I sort of feel like echopinghttps is a near 20-year old tool with little to
no bearing on the reality of where TLS is today.

The owner of this tool has discontinued it ( see
https://github.com/bortzmeyer/echoping ) and it is no longer maintained. I
wouldn't rely on it anymore.

-john


On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 4:26 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I used EchoPingHttps for the first time today.
>
> I pulled up the top 20 sites (well, removing duplicate sites from the same
> company) from Alexa and put them in to trend response times. I've had "this
> feels slow" over the years, but no way to really track that other than
> feels and pings.
>
> I noticed that a few (Facebook, Salesforce, ESPN, and Zillow) don't chart
> at all, with varying errors in a smokeping --debug. I've noticed that a
> couple more (Amazon and Etsy) are fickle in their responses. I assume if
> they're not responding, they're poo pooing on my fake client. Am I in the
> right ballpark?
>
>
> Next, is there a better way of doing this? I saw the curl plugin, but it
> was only after I had seen EchoPingHttps, so maybe curl is "better."
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
>


Smokeping - EchoPingHttps

2021-10-20 Thread Mike Hammett
I used EchoPingHttps for the first time today. 


I pulled up the top 20 sites (well, removing duplicate sites from the same 
company) from Alexa and put them in to trend response times. I've had "this 
feels slow" over the years, but no way to really track that other than feels 
and pings. 


I noticed that a few (Facebook, Salesforce, ESPN, and Zillow) don't chart at 
all, with varying errors in a smokeping --debug. I've noticed that a couple 
more (Amazon and Etsy) are fickle in their responses. I assume if they're not 
responding, they're poo pooing on my fake client. Am I in the right ballpark? 




Next, is there a better way of doing this? I saw the curl plugin, but it was 
only after I had seen EchoPingHttps, so maybe curl is "better." 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com