Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-03 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG
I got a bit carried away watching that :) Yes, it looks like that's what I'm referring to. With me, my muse often sings well when I'm doodling. The problem is that I sometimes want to return to the doodle, which becomes problematic when you're sharing a classical whiteboard. Cheers, Etienne On

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-03 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/3/21 17:29, Etienne-Victor Depasquale wrote: I've been mulling over the use of an interactive whiteboard - not just for the "screen real estate", as you so correctly put it, but also to save my doodles. It beats hogging whiteboards. Has anyone tried this? You mean like this one he is

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-03 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale via NANOG
I've been mulling over the use of an interactive whiteboard - not just for the "screen real estate", as you so correctly put it, but also to save my doodles. It beats hogging whiteboards. Has anyone tried this? On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 9/3/21 17:07, Stephen

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-03 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/3/21 17:07, Stephen Satchell wrote: Size matters, too.  For example, I have a 54" screen.  My record is twelve open (tiled) code windows.  Usually, I have three or four code windows and a LibreWriter window with the specifiations and requirements. Okay  - "screen real estate" :-).

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-03 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 9/3/21 6:54 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: Everyone that I know who spends most of their time writing code can't get enough screens :-). Size matters, too. For example, I have a 54" screen. My record is twelve open (tiled) code windows. Usually, I have three or four code windows and a

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-03 Thread Mark Tinka
On 9/2/21 17:46, Michael Thomas wrote: Haha I'm not a network engineer, much more of a software engineer with lots of networking. the ability to get three browser windows up side by side is really nice for writing and testing code. There's probably more of a market out there then they

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-03 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 7:58 PM, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE wrote: At the risk of going off-topic, there must be an over-representation of network engineers as their customer: because I bought the same TV to also use as a 4k monitor. And the power supply on it just died.  Samsung makes a 39” 4k

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-02 Thread Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
At the risk of going off-topic, there must be an over-representation of network engineers as their customer: because I bought the same TV to also use as a 4k monitor. And the power supply on it just died. Samsung makes a 39” 4k and I haven’t been able to find it. How’s this relevant? We’ve

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Justin Krejci
. From: NANOG on behalf of Haudy Kazemi via NANOG Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:44 PM To: Owen DeLong; nanog list Cc: b...@theworld.com Subject: Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds) Some TVs may also try to rescale the inputs, or enhance/process

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 3:17 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:28 PM > wrote: Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several people who'd tried would say don't do it. And everytime I see an email thread about the difference or not

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 15:17 , Warren Kumari wrote: > > > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:28 PM mailto:b...@theworld.com>> > wrote: > > Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several > people who'd tried would say don't do it. > > And everytime I see an email thread about the

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Warren Kumari
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:28 PM wrote: > > Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several > people who'd tried would say don't do it. And everytime I see an email thread about the difference or not between monitors and TVs I'm taken over by an all consuming rage... I have a

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Haudy Kazemi via NANOG
Some TVs may also try to rescale the inputs, or enhance/process the image in ways that can improve perceived video quality. Things like increasing frame rates of sources that are lower frame rates (thus the 120 Hz and 240 Hz TVs that attempt to make 24, 30, and 60 FPS sources look better), or

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 11:25 , b...@theworld.com wrote: > > > Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several > people who'd tried would say don't do it. I think the gist was that > the image processors in the TVs would fuzz text or something like > that. That it was usable

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
Where possible vote with your dollars by selecting providers that do. Where there are multiple providers and none support v6, make it clear to all that the first one to support v6 will get your business and that subsequently, the best v6 support will win. Where there are not multiple providers,

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 11:49 AM, Matthew Huff wrote: IPv6 tunnels work great for network geeks, but rather poorly for home users with streaming, gaming etc...It's not necessarily the performance, it's either the geolocation, latency, or the very issue that started this thread - VPN banning. Remember,

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Nimrod Levy
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:26 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 9/1/21 10:59 AM, Nimrod Levy wrote: > > All this chatter about IPv6 support on devices is fun and all, but > > there are providers still not on board. > > They operate in my neighborhood and they know who they are... > > > This is about

RE: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Matthew Huff
www.ox.com ... -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Michael Thomas Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 2:26 PM To: Nimrod Levy ; Owen DeLong Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: The great Netflix v

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Tom Beecher
Televisions generally have a way smaller pixel density than a computer monitor. It is very noticeable. On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 2:27 PM wrote: > > Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several > people who'd tried would say don't do it. I think the gist was that > the image

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 11:25 AM, b...@theworld.com wrote: Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several people who'd tried would say don't do it. I think the gist was that the image processors in the TVs would fuzz text or something like that. That it was usable but they were unhappy

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/1/21 10:59 AM, Nimrod Levy wrote: All this chatter about IPv6 support on devices is fun and all, but there are providers still not on board. They operate in my neighborhood and they know who they are... This is about inside your premise before any NAT's enter the picture. What would be

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread bzs
Every time I've read a thread about using TVs for monitors several people who'd tried would say don't do it. I think the gist was that the image processors in the TVs would fuzz text or something like that. That it was usable but they were unhappy with their attempts, it was tiring on the eyes.

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Nimrod Levy
All this chatter about IPv6 support on devices is fun and all, but there are providers still not on board. They operate in my neighborhood and they know who they are... Nimrod

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 18:01 , Michael Thomas wrote: > > > On 8/31/21 4:40 PM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: >> On the other hand, the last time I went looking for a 27” monitor, I ended >> up buying a 44” smart television because it was a cheaper HDMI 4K monitor >> than the 27” alternatives

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 17:51 , Michael Thomas wrote: > > > On 8/31/21 5:13 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: >> On 8/31/21 16:32, Jeroen Massar via NANOG wrote: >> >>> Fun part being that it is hard to get a Dumb TV... though that is primarily >>> simply because of all the tracking non-sense in them

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Lyden, John C
> But I also agree there are limits to what needs IoTing. I don't live in a > house large enough that I can't go see if the box needs cleaning within > about 20s. I also sure as hell don't need a notification on my phone that > one of them just made a deposit. *ding!* 1 New Notification: "clean

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-09-01 Thread Tom Beecher
100% the Litter Robot is amazing. ( Except for my older cat, she's pushing 19, had to build a ramp for her. ) But I also agree there are limits to what needs IoTing. I don't live in a house large enough that I can't go see if the box needs cleaning within about 20s. I also sure as hell don't need

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-08-31 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 8/31/21 20:18, J. Hellenthal wrote: Also don't get a smart litterbox... ;-) Yeah that's a thing and connects to the local Wi-Fi. Kinda want to DMZ that mutha and wait for a script kiddie to turn one of my cats upside down... dubs litter-robot.com I have one, the cat loves it and it's

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-08-31 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Also don't get a smart litterbox... ;-) Yeah that's a thing and connects to the local Wi-Fi. Kinda want to DMZ that mutha and wait for a script kiddie to turn one of my cats upside down... dubs litter-robot.com -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-08-31 Thread Michael Thomas
On 8/31/21 4:40 PM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: On the other hand, the last time I went looking for a 27” monitor, I ended up buying a 44” smart television because it was a cheaper HDMI 4K monitor than the 27” alternatives that weren’t televisions. (It also ended up being cheaper than the

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-08-31 Thread Michael Thomas
On 8/31/21 5:13 PM, Jay Hennigan wrote: On 8/31/21 16:32, Jeroen Massar via NANOG wrote: Fun part being that it is hard to get a Dumb TV... though that is primarily simply because of all the tracking non-sense in them that makes them 'cheaper'... (still wonder how well that tracking stuff

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-08-31 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 8/31/21 16:32, Jeroen Massar via NANOG wrote: Fun part being that it is hard to get a Dumb TV... though that is primarily simply because of all the tracking non-sense in them that makes them 'cheaper'... (still wonder how well that tracking stuff complies with GDPR, I am thinking it does

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-08-31 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Aug 31, 2021, at 16:32 , Jeroen Massar wrote: > > On 2021-09-01 01:13, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: >> You just broke 99% of the smart television sets in people’s homes, >> unfortunately. > > If only everybody would not get a separate box, be that a AppleTV, a > Playstation, a XBox,

Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

2021-08-31 Thread Jeroen Massar via NANOG
On 2021-09-01 01:13, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: You just broke 99% of the smart television sets in people’s homes, unfortunately. If only everybody would not get a separate box, be that a AppleTV, a Playstation, a XBox, Chromecast, ... or many other options. Fun part being that it is