Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-30 Thread Jorge Amodio
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:28 PM, David Hiers hie...@gmail.com wrote: This little border skirmish is a good reminder that we build and operate one of the key battlegrounds on which all current and future wars are, and will be, fought. Too much SciFi, nothing better and more effective than a

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-30 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Not if it's traffic is re-routed/compromised. ;) Jeff On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote: Too much SciFi, nothing better and more effective than a fully loaded also if it can fly remotely operated. -J -- Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-29 Thread Mirko Maffioli
2010/11/17 Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com: Forgot to include that the 18 minute reference is on page 244. -J From Renesys blog: http://www.renesys.com/blog/2010/11/chinas-18-minute-mystery.shtml -- Saluti Mirko

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-29 Thread David Hiers
This little border skirmish is a good reminder that we build and operate one of the key battlegrounds on which all current and future wars are, and will be, fought. David On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Martin A. Brown
Greetings, http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ Hard to decipher what the Fox report is actually talking about, but I suspect it relates to http://www.renesys.com/blog/2010/06/two-strikes-i-root.shtml I would echo the

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:13:39PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote a message of 17 lines which said: Man in the middle rewriting of DNS query responses is the only thing I can think of. And it's easy to detect since the rewriter tells the truth about its own name.

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Lindqvist Kurt Erik
On 16 nov 2010, at 18.08, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ I can detect from the report that this has anything to do with i.root? Can you explain that? Looking at the dates referred to it seem more

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Lindqvist Kurt Erik
On 17 nov 2010, at 07.17, Fred Baker wrote: On Nov 17, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ I have read the article and the list, and I'm puzzled. It's pretty clear that the root

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Lindqvist Kurt Erik
On 17 nov 2010, at 15.37, Lindqvist Kurt Erik wrote: On 16 nov 2010, at 18.08, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ I can detect from the report that this has anything to do with i.root? Can you

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
I had the timeframe wrong then and it was the April 8 routing leaks. Sorry for the false alarm. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Lindqvist Kurt Erik kur...@kurtis.pp.se wrote: I can detect from the report that this has anything to do with i.root? Can you explain that? Looking at the dates

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread bmanning
two observations: ) this sounds/looks like a modern kremvax story ) what a slow news day --bill On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:07:26PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: I had the timeframe wrong then and it was the April 8 routing leaks. Sorry for the false alarm.

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Jorge Amodio
I believe the entire mambo-jambo badly researched and digested news piece comes from page 241 of the following report: http://www.uscc.gov/annual_report/2010/annual_report_full_10.pdf Cheers Jorge

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Jorge Amodio
Forgot to include that the 18 minute reference is on page 244. -J On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the entire mambo-jambo badly researched and digested news piece comes from page 241 of the following report:

The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-16 Thread Jorge Amodio
What's the big deal ? Just look at what the sticker under whatever you are using to type says ... Made in ? We live in a hijacked world. Cheers BTW avoid foxnews, not much operational content there. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote: Cheers BTW avoid foxnews, not much operational content there. I know it, you know it .. and the problem is that operational content turning up there has a nasty way of getting political As it is, fox news is reporting

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-16 Thread Andrew Kirch
Really? Seems to me like Glen Beck is always drawing a series of tubes on his chalkboard? They all lead to Godwin's law though. Very strange... On 11/16/2010 7:39 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote: What's the big deal ? Just look at what the sticker under whatever you are using to type says ... Made

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-16 Thread Fred Baker
On Nov 17, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ I have read the article and the list, and I'm puzzled. It's pretty clear that the root gets its records from a common source, and that the

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Man in the middle rewriting of DNS query responses is the only thing I can think of. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Fred Baker f...@cisco.com wrote: I have read the article and the list, and I'm puzzled. It's pretty clear that the root gets its records from a common source, and that the

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-16 Thread David Conrad
On Nov 16, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Fred Baker wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ I have read the article and the list, and I'm puzzled. It's pretty clear that the root gets its records from a common source, and that the copies of