Re: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

2015-06-30 Thread Joshua Zukerman
There are some downsides with the Colt-250+ units (as I have one almost
daily to do installs for a CLEC).

1. The Colts require 4 high amperage AA batteries. I used to purchase
Duracell Ultra batteries which worked, but life span was a couple of weeks
to maybe a month and now I cannot seem to find them in stores. I now use
Lithium batteries and they seem to last a few months now.
2. They will only sync up for 100 Seconds max. Not helpful when you're
trying to diagnose a flapping circuit.
3. They won't stay sync'd up on circuits with Occam DSLAMs. They randomly
drop after a few seconds. Not a condition of the circuit. Some type of
incompatibility with Occams.
4. As others said, not a Layer 3 or 2 (I think).
5. Does not provide any additional details like Far end errors, Near end
Errors, FEC/HEC, etc.

On the plus side:
1. They boot up really quick, as quick as you can press 2 buttons you can
start a test. (my understanding is Sunrise units take a couple of minutes
to bootup)
2. Relatively lightweight.
3. Can use regular 6p4c line cords in case you lose the nice
Angled-Bed-of-Nails/6p4c test cable it comes with (like I accidentally did).
4. Can be purchased for cheap on eBay. I got mine years ago for less than
$150.00

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:23 PM, Robert Glover robe...@garlic.com wrote:

 The local ILEC (Verizon) use Colt 250+.  They are pretty cool.  They do
 not do layer 3 like the meter you referenced.
 I'm actually looking for a cost-effective meter that does ADSL+ / VDSL2 /
 e.SHDSL.  it's easy to find one that does the first two, but not all three.

  Original message 
 From: Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca
 Date: 06/29/2015  5:50 PM  (GMT-08:00)
 To: North American Network Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

 I've been poking around looking for an inexpensive xDSL circuit tester to
 do some measurements on my home DSL line, in opposition to the telco. $2K+
 is not in the budget, so I'm curious about the accuracy of the $300 Chinese
 units kicking around eBay (e.g. the ST332B).  Anyone out there have
 experience with them?  Are they even remotely close to accurate?

 --lyndon

 ​




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Joshua Zukerman
President
Snow Pond Technology Group Inc.
www.snowpondtech.com


Re: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

2015-06-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
We have some sunrise telecom test set's which we don't use any more.
Will be willing the sell them, let me know off list.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -
 From: Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca
 To: North American Network Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org
 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:50:43 PM
 Subject: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers
 
 I've been poking around looking for an inexpensive xDSL circuit tester to do
 some measurements on my home DSL line, in opposition to the telco. $2K+ is
 not in the budget, so I'm curious about the accuracy of the $300 Chinese
 units kicking around eBay (e.g. the ST332B).  Anyone out there have
 experience with them?  Are they even remotely close to accurate?
 
 --lyndon
 
 


Re: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

2015-06-29 Thread Joe Hamelin
The Westel A90-750045-07 Frontier branded DSL router has some amazing DSL
status screens if you dig in the menu deep enough.  I always kept one in
the truck when I was doing some service work.  Check the local
Goodwill/Value Village.

--
Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Robert Glover robe...@garlic.com wrote:

 The local ILEC (Verizon) use Colt 250+.  They are pretty cool.  They do
 not do layer 3 like the meter you referenced.
 I'm actually looking for a cost-effective meter that does ADSL+ / VDSL2 /
 e.SHDSL.  it's easy to find one that does the first two, but not all three.

  Original message 
 From: Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca
 Date: 06/29/2015  5:50 PM  (GMT-08:00)
 To: North American Network Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

 I've been poking around looking for an inexpensive xDSL circuit tester to
 do some measurements on my home DSL line, in opposition to the telco. $2K+
 is not in the budget, so I'm curious about the accuracy of the $300 Chinese
 units kicking around eBay (e.g. the ST332B).  Anyone out there have
 experience with them?  Are they even remotely close to accurate?

 --lyndon

 ​



Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

2015-06-29 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
I've been poking around looking for an inexpensive xDSL circuit tester to do 
some measurements on my home DSL line, in opposition to the telco. $2K+ is not 
in the budget, so I'm curious about the accuracy of the $300 Chinese units 
kicking around eBay (e.g. the ST332B).  Anyone out there have experience with 
them?  Are they even remotely close to accurate?

--lyndon



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RE: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

2015-06-29 Thread Robert Glover
The local ILEC (Verizon) use Colt 250+.  They are pretty cool.  They do not do 
layer 3 like the meter you referenced.
I'm actually looking for a cost-effective meter that does ADSL+ / VDSL2 / 
e.SHDSL.  it's easy to find one that does the first two, but not all three.

 Original message 
From: Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca 
Date: 06/29/2015  5:50 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: North American Network Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org 
Subject: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers 

I've been poking around looking for an inexpensive xDSL circuit tester to do 
some measurements on my home DSL line, in opposition to the telco. $2K+ is not 
in the budget, so I'm curious about the accuracy of the $300 Chinese units 
kicking around eBay (e.g. the ST332B).  Anyone out there have experience with 
them?  Are they even remotely close to accurate?

--lyndon

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