ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Nov 4, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
>> Sorry no, but I have a Commodore 64 1200/75 baud modem, real collectors
>> item...
> If it doesn't have an acoustic coupler, it&#
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 12:44 -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
> In most if not all European countries (and likely most other countries
> too) you pay a fee per time unit (say per minute) for local calls.
in addition to a relatively high monthly "standing charge" subscription
fee I might add!
In th
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:21 -0400, Greg Whynott wrote:
> you recently converted from token ring to ethernet? i had no idea
> there was still token ring networks out there, or am i living in a
> bubble?
Look in your car...
If you have a recent vehicle (especially one with integrated nav,
multi
On 11/4/10 1:22 PM, Jason LeBlanc wrote:
This is bringing back memories of DecNet and LAT, not good ones either.
LAT... I think I've seen one network with that in actual use - I
believe it was coupled with uniplex and IBM 5250 serial terminals (going
back to the mid 90s). I now finally unde
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Jay Farrell wrote:
My workplace migrated the last customer off SMDS maybe about 2 or 3
years ago, but most of them were moved several years before that. My
understanding is Vz could no longer buy gear to support SMDS and
pretty much had to cannibalize existing equipment to ke
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Justin M. Streiner
wrote:
> The only example of a technology that comes to mind straight away that truly
> died out is/was SMDS, though I'm sure there are are a few others.
>>
>> From what I remember, only a handful of telcos offered SMDS back in its
>
> heyday (mi
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Nov 4, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
Sorry no, but I have a Commodore 64 1200/75 baud modem, real collectors item...
If it doesn't have an acoustic coupler, it's not a real collector's item. :)
Damn you got me there, almost put it up on ebay hoping
Curtis Maurand wrote:
Much of Maine is not covered by broadband and companies are still using
dialup routers. Much of the US (70%) is not covered by broadband and
the only internet connection is dialup.
That is kinda bad, but to put it into perspective, you have free, or at
least one flat fe
On Nov 4, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Gary Baribault wrote:
>> OK, I haven't taken it back out of the box, but anyone still have 8
>> bit ISA Arcnet with thin coax?
>
> Sorry no, but I have a Commodore 64 1200/75 baud modem, real collectors
> item.
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Gary Baribault wrote:
OK, I haven't taken it back out of the box, but anyone still have 8
bit ISA Arcnet with thin coax?
Sorry no, but I have a Commodore 64 1200/75 baud modem, real collectors
item...
--
http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
http://lin
This is bringing back memories of DecNet and LAT, not good ones either. ;)
On 11/04/2010 12:38 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
On 11/4/10 9:09 AM, Gary Baribault wrote:
I sure am glad to see that I'm not the only crazy/dinosaur lurking on
this list! It really gives me hope for the future!
Of course t
On 11/4/10 9:09 AM, Gary Baribault wrote:
I sure am glad to see that I'm not the only crazy/dinosaur lurking on
this list! It really gives me hope for the future!
Of course to do this job right, a good memory help, and being crazy is
nearly a prerequisite to last!:-)
I know several people loca
On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote:
> On 11/2/2010 3:49 PM, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
>>> Are there still any commercial X.25 nets in operation? I had some
>>> peripheral involvement with Tymnet in the MCI/Concert conversion, and hear
>>> it shut down sometime in 2003-4.
>>
>> h
I sure am glad to see that I'm not the only crazy/dinosaur lurking on
this list! It really gives me hope for the future!
Of course to do this job right, a good memory help, and being crazy is
nearly a prerequisite to last! :-)
Gary B
On 11/04/2010 10:52 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote:
> On 11/2/2010
On 11/2/2010 3:49 PM, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
Are there still any commercial X.25 nets in operation? I had some
peripheral involvement with Tymnet in the MCI/Concert conversion, and
hear it shut down sometime in 2003-4.
http://www.ram.nl/nl/aanbieder_van_mobiele_datacommunicatie/diensten/ne
Much of Maine is not covered by broadband and companies are still using
dialup routers. Much of the US (70%) is not covered by broadband and
the only internet connection is dialup.
--Curtis
On 11/3/2010 11:13 AM, Gary Baribault wrote:
And you live in a cabin in the woods, pedal a generator
What can I say... awesome... :-) You should definitely send some pictures,
if you can upload them via thicknet :-)
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 02, 2010 04:55:02 pm Michael Sokolov wrote:
> > Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
> >
> > > Not only token ri
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To: Jacob Broussard
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching
Old
hardware
really interests me as I still have my first computer (laptop with
slide out
trackball, external scsi cd-rom, and
Gary Baribault writes:
> OK, I haven't taken it back out of the box, but anyone still have 8
> bit ISA Arcnet with thin coax?
Sorry bro, only Farallon PhoneNet and Gatorboxes here.
-r
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, Michael Sokolov wrote:
Michael Painter wrote:
Thick or Thin?
Thin. I *so* wish I had thick coaxial Ethernet, but alas, my present
physical facility is just too small for that: my present coax Ethernet
network is contained within a single machine room which is a converte
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Nick Hilliard wrote:
On 01/11/2010 15:21, Greg Whynott wrote:
you recently converted from token ring to ethernet? i had no idea
there was still token ring networks out there, or am i living in a
bubble?
Sadly, you're living in a bubble. As long as there are banks an
On Tuesday, November 02, 2010 04:55:02 pm Michael Sokolov wrote:
> Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
>
> > Not only token ring. I know of some coaxial ethernets that were running as
> > late as 2007.
> The network I am using to compose and post this message right now is a
> coaxial Ethernet.
Oh m
Gary Baribault wrote:
> And you live in a cabin in the woods, pedal a generator to get the
> router up and the router is connected to a 56K Dial-up morem?
I have never used those "56K" dial-up modems because they are asymmetric:
it's only "56K" in the downstream direction, and I oppose that on
p
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Gary Baribault wrote:
> OK, I haven't taken it back out of the box, but anyone still have 8
> bit ISA Arcnet with thin coax?
No, but I remember controlling stacks of Mulitech modems with an
Arcnet RJ-11 connection on Windows 3.1. I think the Arcnet hub is
still ki
OK, I haven't taken it back out of the box, but anyone still have 8
bit ISA Arcnet with thin coax?
I HATE soldering the terminating resistors... :-(
Gary B
On 11/02/2010 10:34 PM, Julien Goodwin wrote:
> On 03/11/10 13:11, Express Web Systems wrote:
The network I am using to compose and po
And you live in a cabin in the woods, pedal a generator to get the
router up and the router is connected to a 56K Dial-up morem?
;-)
Gary B
> Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
>
>> Hats off!! You should post some pictures!
> As in ASCII art pictures? Because my life revolves around ASCII text
> a
On Nov 3, 2010, at 10:08 AM, "Adcock, Matt [HISNA]" wrote:
> To my knowledge Simplex Grinnell fire detection systems currently use token
> ring.
I can't believe I got through is thread (unless the iPhone threading is more
broken than usual) without anyone mentioning the fibre channel over to
: Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching
Not only token ring. I know of some coaxial ethernets that were running as
late as 2007.
Some ATM machines still use X.25. And I know of at least one operational
CNLP network (not a commercial one though)
cheers!
Carlos
On
hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching
>Old
> hardware
> really interests me as I still have my first computer (laptop with
> slide out
> trackball, external scsi cd-rom, and 10base2 networking.)
> Anyway back to lurking for me.
> On Nov 3, 2010 1:21 AM, "Michael Sok
>Old
> hardware
> really interests me as I still have my first computer (laptop with
> slide out
> trackball, external scsi cd-rom, and 10base2 networking.)
> Anyway back to lurking for me.
> On Nov 3, 2010 1:21 AM, "Michael Sokolov"
> wrote:
I think I still have an old COSMAC ELF out in the gara
On 11/02/2010 10:47 PM, Jacob Broussard wrote:
I guess I am not as funny as I thought I was.
None of us are. :)
Doug
--
Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much.
-- OK Go
Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS.
I wasn't trying to imply anything with my comment, it was meant as a cheap
joke. I apologize if I gave that impression. I am still very young and
have never heard of most of these, other than atm and x.25... Old hardware
really interests me as I still have my first computer (laptop with slide ou
Jacob Broussard wrote:
> Wow... Reading this thread I feel like some sort of time traveler, what with
> my cable internet, multicore processor, and smartphone.
Just in case it isn't clear, I use all of my ancient computing and
network technology by a *very* deliberate choice. Just take the case
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Chris Boyd wrote:
>
> On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
>
>> And FDDI and X.25 and every single legacy protocol
>
> Are there still any commercial X.25 nets in operation? I had some peripheral
> involvement with Tymnet in the MCI/Concert conversion
Part of the joke was that I am not state of the art :( I guess I am not as
funny as I thought I was.
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 03, 2010, Jacob Broussard wrote:
> > Wow... Reading this thread I feel like some sort of time traveler, what
> with
> > my cable
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010, Jacob Broussard wrote:
> Wow... Reading this thread I feel like some sort of time traveler, what with
> my cable internet, multicore processor, and smartphone.
Hi, I'm from the year 2000. I've got my cable internet, some prototype DSP/CPU
combination cores that I've been play
Wow... Reading this thread I feel like some sort of time traveler, what with
my cable internet, multicore processor, and smartphone.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Michael Sokolov
wrote:
> I wrote:
>
> : Thin. I *so* wish I had thick coaxial Ethernet, but alas, my present
> : physical facility
I wrote:
: Thin. I *so* wish I had thick coaxial Ethernet, but alas, my present
: physical facility is just too small for that: my present coax Ethernet
: network is contained within a single machine room which is a converted
: bedroom.
Forgot to add: this thin coax Ethernet interconnects severa
Michael Painter wrote:
> Thick or Thin?
Thin. I *so* wish I had thick coaxial Ethernet, but alas, my present
physical facility is just too small for that: my present coax Ethernet
network is contained within a single machine room which is a converted
bedroom.
MS
On 03/11/10 13:11, Express Web Systems wrote:
>>> The network I am using to compose and post this message right now is
>> a
>>> coaxial Ethernet.
>>>
>>> MS
>>
>> Thick or Thin?
>
> Bonus points for 10-Base-5.
Super bonus points (and presumably therapy) for 10-broad-36.
> > The network I am using to compose and post this message right now is
> a
> > coaxial Ethernet.
> >
> > MS
>
> Thick or Thin?
Bonus points for 10-Base-5.
Michael Sokolov wrote:
Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
Not only token ring. I know of some coaxial ethernets that were running as
late as 2007.
The network I am using to compose and post this message right now is a
coaxial Ethernet.
MS
Thick or Thin?
--- On Tue, 11/2/10, Lynda wrote:
> From: Lynda
> Subject: Re: Token ring? topic hijack: was Re: Mystery open source switching
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2010, 12:51 PM
> On 11/2/2010 12:43 PM, Chris Boyd
> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 1, 20
Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
> Hats off!! You should post some pictures!
As in ASCII art pictures? Because my life revolves around ASCII text
and I abhor anything that isn't ASCII text, I do not own a camera of any
kind, never have and likely never will.
MS
Hats off!! You should post some pictures!
cheers
C.
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Michael Sokolov wrote:
> Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
>
> > Not only token ring. I know of some coaxial ethernets that were running
> as
> > late as 2007.
>
> The network I am using to compose and post this
At 03:43 PM 11/2/2010, Chris Boyd wrote:
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> And FDDI and X.25 and every single legacy protocol
Are there still any commercial X.25 nets in operation?
DATAPAC in Canada was running at least until Jan of this year. The
price per month kept get
Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
> Not only token ring. I know of some coaxial ethernets that were running as
> late as 2007.
The network I am using to compose and post this message right now is a
coaxial Ethernet.
MS
lets just say that its easier to have a linux box bridge/route between
ethernet and token ring than it is to get ethernet nics for your as/400's
and other old stuff.
you recently converted from token ring to ethernet? i had no idea there
was still token ring networks out there, or am i liv
if you can live with the rather small mtu :P
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
X.25 is very useful for non TCP applications, especially in places where the
infrastructure is less-than-modern.
X.25 used as a layer 2 transport (even though it is not technically a L2
protocol, but t
Not only token ring. I know of some coaxial ethernets that were running as
late as 2007.
Some ATM machines still use X.25. And I know of at least one operational
CNLP network (not a commercial one though)
cheers!
Carlos
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Greg Whynott wrote:
> off topic…
>
> you
X.25 is very useful for non TCP applications, especially in places where the
infrastructure is less-than-modern.
X.25 used as a layer 2 transport (even though it is not technically a L2
protocol, but then neither is ATM) is useful because it has error checking.
--
TTFN,
patrick
On Nov 2, 201
There used to be quite substantial usage of X.25 in Brazil, for a lot longer
than usual, for POS transactions. x.28 in fact, that would be PAD to X.25, may
still be the case ? (RENPAC and 3028 come to mind)
The management of some Nortel GSM devices also could be done over X.25,
usually, it woul
doesn't most of SMS (the crap on GSM's) also run on x.25?
i recall some customer of mine talking X.25 to a telco to get their
messages to the phones anyway.
same for one of our banks not so very long ago...
On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
Are there still any commercial X.25 ne
On 11/2/2010 12:43 PM, Chris Boyd wrote:
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
And FDDI and X.25 and every single legacy protocol
Are there still any commercial X.25 nets in operation? I had some
peripheral involvement with Tymnet in the MCI/Concert conversion, and
hear it shut
Are there still any commercial X.25 nets in operation? I had some peripheral
involvement with Tymnet in the MCI/Concert conversion, and hear it shut down
sometime in 2003-4.
http://www.ram.nl/nl/aanbieder_van_mobiele_datacommunicatie/diensten/netwerkdiensten?read_more=1323735124421760482
als
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> And FDDI and X.25 and every single legacy protocol
Are there still any commercial X.25 nets in operation? I had some peripheral
involvement with Tymnet in the MCI/Concert conversion, and hear it shut down
sometime in 2003-4.
--Chris
: was Re: Mystery open source switching
On 01/11/2010 15:21, Greg Whynott wrote:
> you recently converted from token ring to ethernet? i had no idea
> there was still token ring networks out there, or am i living in a
> bubble?
Sadly, you're living in a bubble. As long as there are
On 01/11/2010 15:21, Greg Whynott wrote:
you recently converted from token ring to ethernet? i had no idea
there was still token ring networks out there, or am i living in a
bubble?
Sadly, you're living in a bubble. As long as there are banks and very
large commercial institutions, there w
off topic…
you recently converted from token ring to ethernet? i had no idea there was
still token ring networks out there, or am i living in a bubble?
-g
On Oct 31, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Paul WALL wrote:
> I don't know what the big deal is. I've rolled at least 20 of these
> switches into my
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