RE: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-17 Thread Rod Beck
Rod, do you know if the 40G waves increased the spectrum efficiency of your fiber? On land systems they pretty much break even, i.e. you can have a 100GHz 40G channels or 4x25GHz 10G channels but at the end of the day you still get the same amount of signal out of the fiber. I don't know whats

bits/hz/second: we're barely more efficient than the telegraph (Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-17 Thread Anton Kapela
I'll comment on both: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Rod Beckrod.b...@hiberniaatlantic.com wrote: Rod, do you know if the 40G waves increased the spectrum efficiency of your fiber? On land systems they pretty much break even, i.e. you can [rod beck replies] The enabling technology is

RE: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-17 Thread Holmes,David A
: Monday, August 17, 2009 9:14 AM To: Richard A Steenbergen Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves Rod, do you know if the 40G waves increased the spectrum efficiency of your fiber? On land systems they pretty much break even, i.e. you can have a 100GHz 40G channels or 4x25GHz 10G

RE: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-17 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Rod Beck wrote: Rod, do you know if the 40G waves increased the spectrum efficiency of your fiber? On land systems they pretty much break even, i.e. you can have a 100GHz 40G channels or 4x25GHz 10G channels but at the end of the day you still get the same amount of

Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-15 Thread Jay Ess
In November 24th 2008 Sunet together with Telia and Sprint reached 40Gb on one wavelength using TAT-14. The total length for the project was 9600 kilometers (the length of Sweden plus TAT-14). The Swedish article can be found here

RE: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-14 Thread Rod Beck
is the greatest enemy of truth.'' Albert Einstein. -Original Message- From: Matthew Moyle-Croft [mailto:m...@internode.com.au] Sent: Fri 8/14/2009 12:09 AM To: Rod Beck Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves Congrats Rod. Southern Cross and Nortel have been trialing

Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-14 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:14:59AM +0100, Rod Beck wrote: Obviously using 40 gig waves as the foundation blocks of one's network provides some economies of scale and per unit capex cost savings. I would be curious if anyone knows how to convert this SONET/SDH 40 gig waves into a 40 gig

RE: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-14 Thread Rod Beck
-Original Message- From: Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:r...@e-gerbil.net] Sent: Fri 8/14/2009 2:17 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: Matthew Moyle-Croft; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:14:59AM +0100, Rod Beck wrote: Obviously using 40 gig waves

RE: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-14 Thread Rod Beck
-Original Message- From: Matthew Moyle-Croft [mailto:m...@internode.com.au] Sent: Fri 8/14/2009 12:09 AM To: Rod Beck Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves Congrats Rod. Southern Cross and Nortel have been trialing 40Gbps waves on the 8000km segment from Hawaii

Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:55:36 BST, Rod Beck said: Well, the funny thing is that when I approached bandwidth buyers at some well known publicly traded carriers, they told me that 40 gig waves across the Atlantic were impossible. Theoretically impossible, or just impossible on the fiber that's

RE: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-14 Thread Rod Beck
-Original Message- From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] Sent: Fri 8/14/2009 8:12 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: Matthew Moyle-Croft; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:55:36 BST, Rod Beck said: Well, the funny thing

RE: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-14 Thread Deepak Jain
Well, the funny thing is that when I approached bandwidth buyers at some well known publicly traded carriers, they told me that 40 gig waves across the Atlantic were impossible. Theoretically impossible, or just impossible on the fiber that's already underwater? Big difference there.

Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
. Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: Rod Beck [mailto:rod.b...@hiberniaatlantic.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:34 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com/documents/Hibernia40GAcrossAtlanticPR-JSA2-FINAL.pdf Roderick S

Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves

2009-08-13 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
Congrats Rod. Southern Cross and Nortel have been trialing 40Gbps waves on the 8000km segment from Hawaii to New Zealand. http://www.itnews.com.au/News/152866,southern-cross-trials-40gbps-nortel-kit.aspx The 8000km segment is a LONG way - a very long way but it should mean stability for any