On 14-03-2022 05:06, Fred Baker wrote:
... Where IPv6 has a problem today is with enterprise. IMHO, this is basically
because enterprise is looking at the bottom line. If ISPs were to do what
Mythic Beasts says they do, which is charge their users for address space, IPv6
is virtually free
> On Mar 11, 2022, at 8:39 AM, Joe Maimon wrote:
>
> Google's statistics...
I'm not sure which of you I'm replying to. The comment was made on NANOG the
other day that we should discount Google statistics because they have been
promoting IPv6 for a decade. It's true that they have been doing
Hi, Ca By:
1) Re: Ur. Pt. 1) " ... the number is 46% in the USA. ": Whoa!
Your revised number is even higher. And, I could round it up to 50%!
Seriously, please be specific about where are you reading the number
that you are reporting? I commented after reading your second reference,
Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
I believe that talking about removing IPv4 in any capacity /now/ is a
disservice to the larger conversation.
We mostly agree. Except that there is a significant vocal portion of the
IPv6 spectrum that would like to start obsoleting IPv4 now.
I have my
On 3/11/22 9:39 AM, Joe Maimon wrote:
I am not really convinced that IPv4 can be
ignored/marginalized/obsoleted without penetration reaching over 90%,
globally.
I feel like that's an unfair characterization / summarization.
The VAST MAJORITY of the pro IPv6 discussions that I see are
Ca By wrote:
Google’s number represents how many users reach it over ipv6. Given
Google’s ubiquity in the usa, it is a fair barometer for the usa at
large.
Given google's popularity on handheld platforms, the users of which tend
to be much less sensitive to IPv4 translation mechanisms
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 7:15 AM Abraham Y. Chen wrote:
> Dear Ca By:
>
> 1)It appears that you are reading the Google graph too optimistically,
> or incorrectly. That is, the highest peaks of the graph are about 38%. The
> average of the graph is about 36%. Citing "over 40%" from these is a
Dear Ca By:
1) It appears that you are reading the Google graph too
optimistically, or incorrectly. That is, the highest peaks of the graph
are about 38%. The average of the graph is about 36%. Citing "over 40%"
from these is a gross exaggeration. In fact, the peaks were reached on
On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 at 16:01, Joe Greco wrote:
> I am reading your response as to imply that this is somehow my fault
> (for my networks) and that I am a poor leader for not having embraced
> v6. If that's not what you meant, great, because I feel like there's
> been systemic issues.
No, I
>
> Google sees over 40% of their users on ipv6,* with superior latency *
>
Uncle Geoff generally debunked this years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt-Xx2CmuQE_channel=NANOG
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:01 AM Ca By wrote:
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>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:56 PM Saku Ytti wrote:
>
>> On
On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 11:56 PM Saku Ytti wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 21:00, Joe Greco wrote:
>
> > I really never thought it'd be 2022 and my networks would be still
> > heavily v4. Mind boggling.
>
> Same. And if we don't voluntarily agree to do something to it, it'll
> be the same in
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 09:55:42AM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 21:00, Joe Greco wrote:
> > I really never thought it'd be 2022 and my networks would be still
> > heavily v4. Mind boggling.
>
> Same. And if we don't voluntarily agree to do something to it, it'll
> be the same
On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 at 21:00, Joe Greco wrote:
> I really never thought it'd be 2022 and my networks would be still
> heavily v4. Mind boggling.
Same. And if we don't voluntarily agree to do something to it, it'll
be the same in 2042, we fucked up and those who come after us pay the
price of
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 09:46:41AM -0800, David Conrad wrote:
> Tim,
>
> On Mar 9, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Tim Howe wrote:
> > Some of our biggest vendors who have supposedly supported
> > v6 for over a decade have rudimentary, show-stopping bugs.
>
> Not disagreeing (and not picking on you), but
Tim,
On Mar 9, 2022, at 9:09 AM, Tim Howe wrote:
> Some of our biggest vendors who have supposedly supported
> v6 for over a decade have rudimentary, show-stopping bugs.
Not disagreeing (and not picking on you), but despite hearing this with some
frequency, I haven’t seen much data to
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