RE: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-17 Thread Hiers, David
(R/S, V), CISSP -Original Message- From: Steven M. Bellovin [mailto:s...@cs.columbia.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:46 PM To: Jack Bates Cc: Erik Fichtner; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots? On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:48:07 -0500 Jack

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-17 Thread Jorge Amodio
What will you do when you get a call from Khamenei, and then one from Obama? hungup and keep the packets flowing ?

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Jack Bates
Erik Fichtner wrote: And yet, all upgrades can be postponed with the right... motivation. Hmmm, you do know that motivation may have strictly been, Your maintenance corresponds with a major event, can you put it off for a day? The maintenance in question has obviously been marked

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Chris Woodfield
What's interesting is that the !NANOG part of the universe presumes the maintenance was to be performed by Twitter, not by their carrier (i.e. server, not network, upgrades). Given the fact that the WhaleFail has become a commonly-recognizable sight, I can see this make people a bit, um,

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jack Bates wrote: Erik Fichtner wrote: And yet, all upgrades can be postponed with the right... motivation. Hmmm, you do know that motivation may have strictly been, Your maintenance corresponds with a major event, can you put it off for a day? The

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Steve Pirk
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Tehran is currently UTC/GMT +4:30 hours. The current downtime is for 2:00 PM Pacific, or 1:30 AM in Tehran. That seems to be unfortunately still prime time for the nightly demonstrations, one of which is going on now. If the idea is to avoid such

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:48:07 -0500 Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote: Erik Fichtner wrote: And yet, all upgrades can be postponed with the right... motivation. Hmmm, you do know that motivation may have strictly been, Your maintenance corresponds with a major event, can you put

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Steve Pirkor...@pirk.com wrote: There are some, ehrm, boxen out on the 'net to allow them to get around the active blocking going on, but most of the citizen reporters are unable to even get a conection to allow proxying out. Some serious censoring of 'net

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Alex Thurlow
An update here. Reuters is reporting that the US State Department is behind this maintenance being pushed back. http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSWBT01137420090616?feedType=RSSfeedName=internetNewsrpc=22sp=true I find it very interesting that the US government is seeing the use

Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-15 Thread Erik Fichtner
http://status.twitter.com/post/124145031/maintenance-window-tonight-9-45p-pacific Am I reading that right? Is someone at Verio seriously going to take twitter out for 90 minutes at 9am in Tehran? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Make that NTT America (was Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-15 Thread Alex Thurlow
On 6/15/2009 4:45 PM, Erik Fichtner wrote: Erik Fichtner wrote: http://status.twitter.com/post/124145031/maintenance-window-tonight-9-45p-pacific I am reading it wrong, partially. It's NTT America, not Verio. Missed a layer. Anyway... I know they're not actually making any

Re: Make that NTT America (was Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-15 Thread Marc Manthey
Am 15.06.2009 um 23:50 schrieb Alex Thurlow: I know they're not actually making any money, so they may not be able to afford it, but shouldn't a service that's trying to be as big as twitter be multihomed? they got 35 million lately and there was arumor that apple wnted to buy twitter

Re: Make that NTT America (was Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-15 Thread Erik Fichtner
Brandon Galbraith wrote: http://status.twitter.com/post/124145031/maintenance-window-tonight-9-45p-pacific You sure it's their network, and not Twitter's core/edge? They're blaming it on their upstream. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Make that NTT America (was Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-15 Thread Jason Dearborn
Twitter doesn't run their own core or edge. It's all in the NTT cloud. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Erik Fichtneremf1...@gmail.com wrote: Brandon Galbraith wrote: http://status.twitter.com/post/124145031/maintenance-window-tonight-9-45p-pacific You sure it's their network, and not

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-15 Thread Stephen Repetski
Yep, that's what it says. Things like critical network upgrades sometimes don't wait for good timing - they make their own special event. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Erik Fichtner emf1...@gmail.com wrote: http://status.twitter.com/post/124145031/maintenance-window-tonight-9-45p-pacific

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-15 Thread Adam Fields
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 07:22:33PM -0400, Stephen Repetski wrote: Yep, that's what it says. Things like critical network upgrades sometimes don't wait for good timing - they make their own special event. Rescheduled: http://blog.twitter.com/2009/06/down-time-rescheduled.html --

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-15 Thread Erik Fichtner
Stephen Repetski wrote: Yep, that's what it says. Things like critical network upgrades sometimes don't wait for good timing - they make their own special event. And yet, all upgrades can be postponed with the right... motivation. http://blog.twitter.com/2009/06/down-time-rescheduled.html

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-15 Thread Stephen Repetski
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Erik Fichtner emf1...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen Repetski wrote: Yep, that's what it says. Things like critical network upgrades sometimes don't wait for good timing - they make their own special event. And yet, all upgrades can be postponed with the