On Aug 16, 2011, at 9:40 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:53:24 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
>
>> anyway, they do these donkey things because they can :( people have no
>> real option (except not to play the game, ala war games).
>
> My brother recently tried to get
router and they even had a squid cache
onboard for web browsing :)
svenska tjej its the grej!
chris
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Måns Nilsson wrote:
> Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 01:25:05PM
> -0400 Quoting Christopher Morrow (morrowc.li...@gmail.com):
On Aug 16, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Måns Nilsson wrote:
> Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:49:38AM
> -0400 Quoting chris (tknch...@gmail.com):
>> Overall, IMO the trends are just seem to be going backwards. We have more
>> speed but we can use it
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Måns Nilsson wrote:
> Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:49:38AM
> -0400 Quoting chris (tknch...@gmail.com):
>
> OTOH, never underestimate "Because we can".
in their own words (vzw)[1]:
"Verizon Communi
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 01:25:05PM
-0400 Quoting Christopher Morrow (morrowc.li...@gmail.com):
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
>
> > Really, any phone you buy free and clear without
> > subsidy and contract sho
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:49:38AM
-0400 Quoting chris (tknch...@gmail.com):
> Overall, IMO the trends are just seem to be going backwards. We have more
> speed but we can use it less? What kind of technology advancement is that?
>
> I'
On Aug 16, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> On Aug 16, 2011 9:41 AM, wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:53:24 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
>>
>>> anyway, they do these donkey things because they can :( people have no
>>> real option (except not to play the game, ala war games).
>>
On 16-Aug-11 10:49, chris wrote:
> If my edge from 5+ years ago could 3gb/day and 90gb a month how is 4G at 5gb
> an improvement of the service?
Who said the goal was an improvement in /service/? Based on their
actions, it is quite clear that carriers are only interested technology
or contract t
On 8/16/2011 10:25 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
Really, any phone you buy free and clear without
subsidy and contract should work fine as a phone with a prepaid sim
except for the fact that mobile carriers CAN do these monkey
business
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> Really, any phone you buy free and clear without
> subsidy and contract should work fine as a phone with a prepaid sim
except for the fact that mobile carriers CAN do these monkey
business moves
(note that tmo seems to NOT do these things,
On Aug 16, 2011 9:41 AM, wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:53:24 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
>
> > anyway, they do these donkey things because they can :( people have no
> > real option (except not to play the game, ala war games).
>
> My brother recently tried to get a smartphone without a data
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Christopher Morrow <
morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:29:13AM -0400,
Christopher Morrow wrote:
PCMag did the math, you can use up the 5GB alotment in 32 minut
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:53:24 EDT, Christopher Morrow said:
> anyway, they do these donkey things because they can :( people have no
> real option (except not to play the game, ala war games).
My brother recently tried to get a smartphone without a data plan (as the
phone he wanted was also Wifi-c
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:49 AM, chris wrote:
> Overall, IMO the trends are just seem to be going backwards. We have more
> speed but we can use it less? What kind of technology advancement is that?
I think you're thinking of this the wrong way 'round ... the carriers
are doing better:) see, it'
Overall, IMO the trends are just seem to be going backwards. We have more
speed but we can use it less? What kind of technology advancement is that?
I've had "unlimited" gprs, edge, 3g, and never really seen any kind of
actual cap. Sure they were slower but I didn't have to worry about getting
sur
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
> In a message written on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:29:13AM -0400, Christopher
> Morrow wrote:
>> > PCMag did the math, you can use up the 5GB alotment in 32 minutes
>> > with LTE. Seems like as the speeds get faster the cap should get
>> > lar
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> In a message written on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:34:50PM -0400, Christopher =
> Morrow wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:28 PM, chris wrote:
> > > I
In a message written on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:29:13AM -0400, Christopher
Morrow wrote:
> > PCMag did the math, you can use up the 5GB alotment in 32 minutes
> > with LTE. Seems like as the speeds get faster the cap should get
> > larger, doesn't it?
>
> airtime is still the same price for the
anog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
In a message written on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:34:50PM -0400, Christopher
Morrow wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:28 PM, chris wrote:
> > I've apparently hit some kind of magic bw limit. My 4G LTE is now
> > magically fixed at ma
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
> In a message written on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:34:50PM -0400, Christopher
> Morrow wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:28 PM, chris wrote:
>> > I've apparently hit some kind of magic bw limit. My 4G LTE is now magically
>> > fixed at max
In a message written on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:34:50PM -0400, Christopher
Morrow wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:28 PM, chris wrote:
> > I've apparently hit some kind of magic bw limit. My 4G LTE is now magically
> > fixed at max 1.5mbps
> >
> > Last month's usage was about 200gb.
> >
> > cm
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:28 PM, chris wrote:
> I've apparently hit some kind of magic bw limit. My 4G LTE is now magically
> fixed at max 1.5mbps
>
> Last month's usage was about 200gb.
>
> cmon verizon seriously :(
they've been fairly public about 'unlimited' != "unlimited"
cause basically yo
I've apparently hit some kind of magic bw limit. My 4G LTE is now magically
fixed at max 1.5mbps
Last month's usage was about 200gb.
cmon verizon seriously :(
chris
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Charles N Wyble
wrote:
> On 08/13/2011 01:09 PM, chris wrote:
>
>> I'm in princeton, nj and I r
b/c of coverage issues.
Cheers
Ryan
-Original Message-
From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:31 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
On 08/13/2011 12:54 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
>
> I was hoping to use LTE
With the dongle but installed in a cradlepoint with a high gain antenna
Cheers
Ryan
-Original Message-
From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:37 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
On 08/13/2011 11:52 PM, Ryan
On 08/13/2011 11:56 PM, Tammy A. Wisdom wrote:
Clear is an absolutely horrible ISP.
I've heard people say that. I've used them heavily in Los Angeles and
Austin for over a year (almost two now actually). Never had a problem.
It is quite common for it to go in and out
Probably in fringe co
On 08/13/2011 11:52 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
The two problems I have with Clear is that it does not work well indoors
Oh? The dongle you mean? Yes. The dongle is complete garbage. The
Motorolla CPE has been top notch. Tried it various places in my
apartment (near window, not near window). Ke
On 08/13/2011 01:09 PM, chris wrote:
I'm in princeton, nj and I recently moved into a new place and had no
internet for about a week and had my router in client mode grabbing hotspot
from my phone and it worked surprisingly well. Of course latency can be a
bit jumpy but my speeds overall were bet
* Ryan Finnesey
*Cc:* nanog@nanog.org; Charles N Wyble
*Subject:* RE: Verizon Business - LTE?
On Aug 12, 2011 8:40 PM, "Ryan Finnesey" <mailto:rfinne...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Well they are two completely separate companies . I would think
that the
> LTE netwo
Original Message-
> From: Kevin Day [mailto:toa...@dragondata.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:11 PM
> To: chris
> Cc: Ryan Finnesey; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2011, at 6:58 PM, chris wrote:
>
> > Wha
: chris
Cc: Ryan Finnesey; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
On Aug 13, 2011, at 6:58 PM, chris wrote:
> What plan are you using? My htc thunderbolt has unlimited 4g on the
> phone and for my hotspot so I'd imagine there is something similar for
> stand
s11540/index.html We can pick them up
> for about $250 for the 3G and $350 for the 4G.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* chris [mailto:tknch...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:59 PM
>
> *To:* Ryan Finnesey
> *Cc:* Cameron Byrne; nanog@nanog.org
> *
@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
What plan are you using? My htc thunderbolt has unlimited 4g on the phone
and for my hotspot so I'd imagine there is something similar for standalone
hardware?
chris
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
I have been very
On Aug 13, 2011, at 6:58 PM, chris wrote:
> What plan are you using? My htc thunderbolt has unlimited 4g on the phone
> and for my hotspot so I'd imagine there is something similar for standalone
> hardware?
>
> chris
Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile have all dropped their unlimited plans. If you're
.@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2011 2:09 PM
> *To:* Ryan Finnesey
> *Cc:* Cameron Byrne; nanog@nanog.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
>
> ** **
>
> I'm in princeton, nj and I recently moved into a new place and had no
> internet for
: Saturday, August 13, 2011 2:09 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: Cameron Byrne; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
I'm in princeton, nj and I recently moved into a new place and had no
internet for about a week and had my router in client mode grabbing hotspot
from my phone and it w
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:56 AM
> To: Ryan Finnesey
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Charles N Wyble
> Subject: RE: Verizon Business - LTE?
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 12, 2011 8
; Charles N Wyble
Subject: RE: Verizon Business - LTE?
On Aug 12, 2011 8:40 PM, "Ryan Finnesey" wrote:
>
> Well they are two completely separate companies . I would think that the
> LTE network would be a good replacement for DS1 type services.
>
My guess is no.
Yes, I bet
riday, August 12, 2011 11:26 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
>
> On 08/12/2011 10:23 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
> > Does anyone know if Verizon Business is using the Verizon Wireless LTE
> > network to deliver service?
>
> Who else would they
>-Original Message-
>From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com]
>Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:26 PM
>To: nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
>
>On 08/12/2011 10:23 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
>> Does anyone know if Verizon Bu
: Verizon Business - LTE?
On 08/12/2011 10:23 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
> Does anyone know if Verizon Business is using the Verizon Wireless LTE
> network to deliver service?
Who else would they use? I would presume they are eating their own dog food.
If not, that's very sad. :)
On 08/12/2011 10:23 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
> Does anyone know if Verizon Business is using the Verizon Wireless LTE
> network to deliver service?
Who else would they use? I would presume they are eating their own dog
food. If not, that's very sad. :)
Does anyone know if Verizon Business is using the Verizon Wireless LTE
network to deliver service?
Cheers
Ryan
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