Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-26 Thread Warren Bailey
I purchased omni, but it is pretty difficult to get the hang of.. :/


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 Original message 
From: Måns Nilsson 
Date: 02/26/2013 12:01 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Warren Bailey 
Cc: North American Network Operators Group 
Subject: Re: Visio-fu


Subject: Visio-fu Date: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 08:20:34PM + Quoting Warren 
Bailey (wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com):
> All,
>
> I have been searching our beloved internet endlessly for months on 
> information regarding Visio technique. Does anyone have a good resource(s) 
> for advanced visio drawings, or more to the point a good place for high 
> quality connectors? There is some great quality work out there, this is 
> something I found just a little while ago 
> http://www.parallels.com/r/upload/figure2-1.gif
>
> This may not be a visio drawing (do not have any background on it), but I 
> would really dig some resources that you guys out there may or may not use. 
> The cables in that drawing look fantastic to me, so I would really appreciate 
> any guidance you all have in helping me improve my output.

I'd just quit beating the rotting carcass of Visio into producing anything
not appalling and go with OmniGraffle instead.

http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnigraffle/

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Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-26 Thread .
On 25 February 2013 23:22, Michael Hallgren  wrote:
> Le 25/02/2013 23:15, Warren Bailey a écrit :
>> I've seen smart draw. I wish these drawing software companies would port 
>> their application over to mac.. Every big design guy I know is a mac fanboy, 
>> Adobe has it figured out but smart draw and visio have no excuse. Omni is 
>> about the only thing out there, but it is hell to use in my opinion. :)
>
> Hell is quite structured in the TeX related list I just proposed. :)
>
> mh

other tool idea:
graphviz could be used to generate braincandy, but not eyecandy (most
graphics generated by graphviz are awesome, but ugly).

also this was cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RCa2sjyrUdQ



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Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-26 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Visio-fu Date: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 08:20:34PM + Quoting Warren 
Bailey (wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com):
> All,
> 
> I have been searching our beloved internet endlessly for months on 
> information regarding Visio technique. Does anyone have a good resource(s) 
> for advanced visio drawings, or more to the point a good place for high 
> quality connectors? There is some great quality work out there, this is 
> something I found just a little while ago 
> http://www.parallels.com/r/upload/figure2-1.gif
> 
> This may not be a visio drawing (do not have any background on it), but I 
> would really dig some resources that you guys out there may or may not use. 
> The cables in that drawing look fantastic to me, so I would really appreciate 
> any guidance you all have in helping me improve my output.

I'd just quit beating the rotting carcass of Visio into producing anything
not appalling and go with OmniGraffle instead.

http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnigraffle/

-- 
Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina
MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668
DON'T go!!  I'm not HOWARD COSELL!!  I know POLISH JOKES ... WAIT!!
Don't go!!  I AM Howard Cosell! ... And I DON'T know Polish jokes!!


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Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-25 Thread Justin M. Streiner

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013, George Herbert wrote:


Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not
off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a
graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with
Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator).


I concur.  Visio is not particularly good at (what appear to be) freehand 
shapes.


jm'probably the closest thing to "the Visio guy" at my workplace's




Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le 25/02/2013 23:15, Warren Bailey a écrit :
> I've seen smart draw. I wish these drawing software companies would port 
> their application over to mac.. Every big design guy I know is a mac fanboy, 
> Adobe has it figured out but smart draw and visio have no excuse. Omni is 
> about the only thing out there, but it is hell to use in my opinion. :)

Hell is quite structured in the TeX related list I just proposed. :)

mh
>
>
> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Josh Baird 
> Date: 02/25/2013 2:10 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: George Herbert 
> Cc: Warren Bailey ,North American 
> Network Operators Group 
> Subject: Re: Visio-fu
>
>
> Check SmartDraw.
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM, George Herbert 
> mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM, George Herbert
> mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> [...]
>> My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on
>> that, but I am guessing it's a no.
> Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not
> off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a
> graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with
> Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator).
>
>
> --
> -george william herbert
> george.herb...@gmail.com<mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com>
>
>




Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le 25/02/2013 23:06, Josh Baird a écrit :
> Check SmartDraw.

pstricks, metapost, TikZ (pgf),...

mh

>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM, George Herbert 
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM, George Herbert
>>  wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on
>>> that, but I am guessing it's a no.
>> Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not
>> off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a
>> graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with
>> Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator).
>>
>>
>> --
>> -george william herbert
>> george.herb...@gmail.com
>>
>>




Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-25 Thread Warren Bailey
I've seen smart draw. I wish these drawing software companies would port their 
application over to mac.. Every big design guy I know is a mac fanboy, Adobe 
has it figured out but smart draw and visio have no excuse. Omni is about the 
only thing out there, but it is hell to use in my opinion. :)


>From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.



 Original message 
From: Josh Baird 
Date: 02/25/2013 2:10 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: George Herbert 
Cc: Warren Bailey ,North American 
Network Operators Group 
Subject: Re: Visio-fu


Check SmartDraw.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM, George Herbert 
mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM, George Herbert
mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> [...]
> My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on
> that, but I am guessing it's a no.

Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not
off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a
graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with
Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator).


--
-george william herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com<mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com>




Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-25 Thread Josh Baird
Check SmartDraw.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:04 PM, George Herbert wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM, George Herbert
>  wrote:
> > [...]
> > My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on
> > that, but I am guessing it's a no.
>
> Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not
> off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a
> graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with
> Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator).
>
>
> --
> -george william herbert
> george.herb...@gmail.com
>
>


Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-25 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:58 PM, George Herbert
 wrote:
> [...]
> My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on
> that, but I am guessing it's a no.

Our Visio guy's opinion concurred with mine; it's custom drawing, not
off-the-shelf capability, and would most likely have been in a
graphics program (though he thinks it might have been possible with
Visio, it would have been much easier in for example Illustrator).


-- 
-george william herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com



Re: Visio-fu

2013-02-25 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Warren Bailey
 wrote:
> All,
>
> I have been searching our beloved internet endlessly for months on 
> information regarding Visio technique. Does anyone have a good resource(s) 
> for advanced visio drawings, or more to the point a good place for high 
> quality connectors? There is some great quality work out there, this is 
> something I found just a little while ago 
> http://www.parallels.com/r/upload/figure2-1.gif
>
> This may not be a visio drawing (do not have any background on it), but I 
> would really dig some resources that you guys out there may or may not use. 
> The cables in that drawing look fantastic to me, so I would really appreciate 
> any guidance you all have in helping me improve my output.
>
> Thanks!
>
> //warren

I've seen a lot of .vsd and drawn a few, and that looks like a
professional artist and graphics program like Illustrator, not Visio.
They might have poached some visio generic system images, but those
could be hand-done too.

If Visio can do twisted, curved cables like that, it's a feature I've
never seen before in it...

My company has a Visio whiz, who I'm going to ping for his opinion on
that, but I am guessing it's a no.


-- 
-george william herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com



Visio-fu

2013-02-25 Thread Warren Bailey
All,

I have been searching our beloved internet endlessly for months on information 
regarding Visio technique. Does anyone have a good resource(s) for advanced 
visio drawings, or more to the point a good place for high quality connectors? 
There is some great quality work out there, this is something I found just a 
little while ago http://www.parallels.com/r/upload/figure2-1.gif

This may not be a visio drawing (do not have any background on it), but I would 
really dig some resources that you guys out there may or may not use. The 
cables in that drawing look fantastic to me, so I would really appreciate any 
guidance you all have in helping me improve my output.

Thanks!

//warren