abuse reporting (was Re: Yahoo abuse)

2010-02-14 Thread J.D. Falk
On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:45 PM, James Hess wrote: That said, XML makes a terrible data interchange format for communications where humans are supposed to understand the message, using standard software (such as a legacy e-mail client). Exactly what we said when developing ARF. -- J.D. Falk

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-11 Thread J.D. Falk
On Feb 9, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: That's IODEF, if and when it picks up enough steam to get widely deployed. That looks over-engineered, but at least someone can create a web service where the user can fill in fields

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-11 Thread James Hess
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:41 PM, J.D. Falk jdfalk-li...@cybernothing.org wrote: Some types of conversations simply don't take well to automation. However, automatically indexing/archiving such conversations for future reference can be useful (and can assist participants to the conversation in

Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread John Peach
Does anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to recognize that they're hosting a phishing site? All I can ever get back from them is boilerplate telling me they know how frustrating it is to get spam, that it did not originate from them and how to read the headers. Not half as frustrating

FW: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Blake Pfankuch
:55 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Yahoo abuse Does anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to recognize that they're hosting a phishing site? All I can ever get back from them is boilerplate telling me they know how frustrating it is to get spam, that it did not originate from them and how to read

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Jaren Angerbauer
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:54 AM, John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com wrote: Does anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to recognize that they're hosting a phishing site? All I can ever get back from them is boilerplate telling me they know how frustrating it is to get spam, that it did

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread John Peach
Damn forms; whatever happened to abuse@ addresses? On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:39:20 -0700 Jaren Angerbauer jarenangerba...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:54 AM, John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com wrote: Does anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to recognize that they're hosting

RE: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Drew Weaver
- From: John Peach [mailto:john-na...@johnpeach.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:47 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Yahoo abuse Damn forms; whatever happened to abuse@ addresses? On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 07:39:20 -0700 Jaren Angerbauer jarenangerba...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:47 AM, John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com wrote: Damn forms; whatever happened to abuse@ addresses? They got abused. :/ Matt

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Shane Short
anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to recognize that they're hosting a phishing site? All I can ever get back from them is boilerplate telling me they know how frustrating it is to get spam, that it did not originate from them and how to read the headers. Not half as frustrating

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:54 AM, John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com wrote: Does anyone know how to get Yahoo abuse to recognize that they're hosting a phishing site? All I can ever get back from them is boilerplate telling me they know how frustrating it is to get spam, that it did

RE: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Jess Cohen
- From: Mikael Abrahamsson [mailto:swm...@swm.pp.se] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 8:53 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Yahoo abuse On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, John Peach wrote: Damn forms; whatever happened to abuse@ addresses? A few years I proposed a standard way to report abuse by email (X

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread J.D. Falk
On Feb 9, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, John Peach wrote: Damn forms; whatever happened to abuse@ addresses? A few years I proposed a standard way to report abuse by email (X-headers) but nobody was interested. There's a (draft, de facto) standard

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Drew Weaver drew.wea...@thenap.com wrote: Half of the time our abuse people spend is wading through the spam at the abuse@ addresses =) Oh we love that. Find some way to automate feeding all that to your spam filters and you got yourself a sizeable trap, if

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, J.D. Falk wrote: A few years I proposed a standard way to report abuse by email (X-headers) but nobody was interested. There's a (draft, de facto) standard format for automated reports between providers: http://mipassoc.org/arf/ http://tools.ietf.org/wg/marf/

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
That's IODEF, if and when it picks up enough steam to get widely deployed. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: Unfortunately this seems very focused on reporting SPAM and other email related abuses. What I was looking for was a way to format a generic

Re: Yahoo abuse

2010-02-09 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: That's IODEF, if and when it picks up enough steam to get widely deployed. That looks over-engineered, but at least someone can create a web service where the user can fill in fields and use drop-down menus to create the XML and the