Re: (off list) Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-20 Thread VOLKAN KIRIK
- *From: *"VOLKAN KIRIK" <mailto:volki...@gmail.com> *To: *"Rubens Kuhl" <mailto:rube...@gmail.com> *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>, dschaef...@cogentco.com <mailto:dschaef...@cogentco.com&

Re: (off list) Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-20 Thread Mike Lyon
gue >>> that connectivity to the small provider is still valuable to the customers >>> of the large provider. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022, 9:32 AM VOLKAN KIRIK wrote: >>> the more uploading side pays each month for the excess amount. >>>

Re: (off list) Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-20 Thread VOLKAN KIRIK
;, dschaef...@cogentco.com <mailto:dschaef...@cogentco.com>, peer...@cogentco.com <mailto:peer...@cogentco.com> *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM *Subject: *Re: cogent and henet not peering this is 50/50 situation. nobody has to peer

Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-20 Thread VOLKAN KIRIK
org, dschaef...@cogentco.com, peer...@cogentco.com *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM *Subject: *Re: cogent and henet not peering this is 50/50 situation. nobody has to peer for free. but everyone can. lets just say above 1:1 ratio he.net <http:

Re: cogent and henet not peering

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Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-20 Thread VOLKAN KIRIK
- *From: *"VOLKAN KIRIK" <mailto:volki...@gmail.com> *To: *"Rubens Kuhl" <mailto:rube...@gmail.com> *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org, dschaef...@cogentco.com, peer...@cogentco.com *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM *Subject: *Re: cogen

Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-20 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
-- > *From: *"VOLKAN KIRIK" > *To: *"Rubens Kuhl" > *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org, dschaef...@cogentco.com, peer...@cogentco.com > *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM > *Subject: *Re: cogent and henet not peering > > this is 50/50 situation. nobody has

Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-19 Thread VOLKAN KIRIK
swisp><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"VOLKAN KIRIK" *To: *"Rubens Kuhl" *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org, dschaef...@cogentco.com, peer...@cogentco.com *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM *Subject: *Re: cogent and henet not

Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-19 Thread VOLKAN KIRIK
om: *"VOLKAN KIRIK" *To: *"Rubens Kuhl" *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org, dschaef...@cogentco.com, peer...@cogentco.com *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM *Subject: *Re: cogent and henet not peering this is 50/50 situation. nobody has to peer for free. but everyone can. lets

Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "VOLKAN KIRIK" To: "Rubens Kuhl" Cc: nanog@nanog.org, dschaef...@cogentco.com, peer...@cogentco.com Sent: Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM Subject:

Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-19 Thread VOLKAN KIRIK
this is 50/50 situation. nobody has to peer for free. but everyone can. lets just say above 1:1 ratio he.net pays their own ip transit price to cogent for paid peering excess amount and both sides monitor traffic we can solve this issue by becoming middlemen worldwide... both operators are

Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-19 Thread Rubens Kuhl
OTOH, knowing that Cogent loves splitting the global Internet is one good reason to not contract their services. I think they sell traffic to their private Intranet. Which is huge, but doesn't encompass the whole Internet. Rubens On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 12:04 PM VOLKAN KIRIK wrote: > > lets

Re: cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-19 Thread VOLKAN KIRIK
alternatively you can do this every 5 minutes.. you could write a script to get 5 minute average for both downstream and upstream and then equalize by rate-limiting with 5 minute delay. it would be nearly instant and absolutely fair for both sides. 19.08.2022 18:03 tarihinde VOLKAN KIRIK

cogent and henet not peering

2022-08-19 Thread VOLKAN KIRIK
lets just say cogent gives 400GE in each pop they have in common with he.net for free. *BUT* they will rate-limit he.net links *to* previous month's 95th percentile upload or download (which is minimum) rate (*each month*) to make ratio 1:1... to make downstream and upstream traffics fair...