Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

chael Thomas *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:46 PM *To:* Fred Baker *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses? On 2/16/21 4:18 PM, Fred Baker wrote: You may find this article interesting: https://urldefense.com/

Re: [EXTERNAL] dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

On 16 Feb 2021, at 11:53 PM, Mann, Jason via NANOG mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> wrote: Any recommendations for legitimate ip brokers? ARIN maintains a list of transfer facilitators - all of these parties have agreed to follow our procedures, but please note that we do not otherwise qualify or vali

Re: [EXTERNAL] dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

On 16 Feb 2021, at 6:50 PM, Niels Bakker wrote: > > * nanog@nanog.org (Mann, Jason via NANOG) [Wed 17 Feb 2021, 00:44 CET]: >> Are their legtimate websites to go to purchase new blocks? > > IPv4 is not like Bitcoin, new addresses aren't being mined using gigantic > amounts of electricity at eno

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

Any recommendations for legitimate ip brokers? From: NANOG on behalf of Michael Thomas Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 5:46 PM To: Fred Baker Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses? On 2/

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 4:47 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > So aside from Afrinic, this is all being done on the gray market? Hi Mike, No. The market is fully above board with policies written into the RIR operations to intentionally support its existence. In the ARIN region that's things like the "

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

That depends on your definition of grey market, there is an officially approved ARIN IP block transfer process for people who are buying, via brokers, discrete /24s and larger. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 4:46 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 2/16/21 4:18 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > > You may find this a

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

On 2/16/21 4:18 PM, Fred Baker wrote: You may find this article interesting: https://blog.apnic.net/2019/12/13/keep-calm-and-carry-on-the-status-of-ipv4-address-allocation/ So aside from Afrinic

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

day, February 16, 2021 4:10 PM > To: Michael Thomas > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 > addresses? > > Pretty sure APNIC is out of addresses. > > It's now a matter of "when someone sells a

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

You may find this article interesting: https://blog.apnic.net/2019/12/13/keep-calm-and-carry-on-the-status-of-ipv4-address-allocation/ Sent from my iPad > On Feb 16, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > >  > Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, what is > hap

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

* nanog@nanog.org (Mann, Jason via NANOG) [Wed 17 Feb 2021, 00:44 CET]: Are their legtimate websites to go to purchase new blocks? IPv4 is not like Bitcoin, new addresses aren't being mined using gigantic amounts of electricity at enormous environmental cost. -- Niels.

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 8:06 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, what > is happening? > > In LAC region (LACNIC, NIC.br and NIC.mx), the controlled depletion phases are now complete and the RIR reached 0 available IPv4 addresses, regardle

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

Are their legtimate websites to go to purchase new blocks? From: NANOG on behalf of Jennifer Sims Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 4:10 PM To: Michael Thomas Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 9:21 AM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 6:06 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > > > > > Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, what > > is happening? > > isn't the answer to this: > "All except AFRNic announced their pools were

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

APNIC continues to have a final /8 policy and can allocate or assign up to a /23 to new entrants from its holdings. APNIC reclaims unused IP addresses. https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/ipv4-exhaustion/ On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 9:15 AM Jennifer Sims wrote: > > Pretty sure APNIC is out of addresses

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 3:07 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? All of them except possibly Afrinic. > If so, what > is happening? You find someone who has listed their IP addresses for sale via a broker, buy them, and then request a specified

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 6:06 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > > Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, what > is happening? isn't the answer to this: "All except AFRNic announced their pools were empty." and: "you can go to the transfer market and arrange transfer of i

Re: dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

Pretty sure APNIC is out of addresses. It's now a matter of "when someone sells a block, you buy a block". On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:07 AM Michael Thomas wrote: > > Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, what > is happening? > > Mike > >

dumb question: are any of the RIR's out of IPv4 addresses?

Basically are there places that you can't get allocations? If so, what is happening? Mike