Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Jul/20 18:41, William Herrin wrote: > How you parse it depends on your intention when quoting my interview > story with a response about exhibiting curiosity. It was either full > agreement about the value of curiousity or a pointed retort about the > difference between curiosity and

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-24 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:44 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > On 24/Jul/20 09:32, William Herrin wrote: > > Choosing not to mash one's fingers with a hammer is not an absence of > > curiosity about carpentry. It's merely an understanding that doing > > carpentry well involves -not- mashing one's fingers

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-24 Thread Greg Skinner via NANOG
Comments inline. > On Jul 14, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Andrey Khomyakov > wrote: > > I was once asked at a FANG interview how I would affect incoming traffic > using BGP. I listed the usual offenders like AS path and med. He kept asking > how else, to which after pondering I said that I cant think

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Jul/20 09:59, Peter Kristolaitis wrote:   > > I would suggest that companies who follow FAANG-type development > models actually value both expertise and curiosity, and also throw in > the ability and willingness to rapidly iterate.  Certainly one can > search Google for solutions to

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-24 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
On 2020-07-24 3:06 a.m., Mark Tinka wrote: On 24/Jul/20 00:26, William Herrin wrote: Many moons ago, I interviewed at Google. During one of the afternoon sessions the interviewer and I spent about half an hour spitballing approaches for system monitoring problem at scale. I no longer remember

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Jul/20 09:53, Wayne Bouchard wrote: > > Well, I take the point of his comment to be not being curious to the > point of inadvertantly doing damage to something that you were better > off leaving alone until you found someone who could clue you in to the > particulars. There are plenty of

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-24 Thread Wayne Bouchard
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 09:44:36AM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 24/Jul/20 09:32, William Herrin wrote: > > > Choosing not to mash one's fingers with a hammer is not an absence of > > curiosity about carpentry. It's merely an understanding that doing > > carpentry well involves -not-

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Jul/20 09:32, William Herrin wrote: > Choosing not to mash one's fingers with a hammer is not an absence of > curiosity about carpentry. It's merely an understanding that doing > carpentry well involves -not- mashing one's fingers with a hammer. You mean like not poking your finger into

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-24 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:08 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > I prefer to have staff that are burdened with being curious, rather than > staff who think they don't. After all, all the information is already > out there. Having experience is just as important as being diligent to > obtain it. Choosing not

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-24 Thread Mark Tinka
On 24/Jul/20 00:26, William Herrin wrote: > Many moons ago, I interviewed at Google. During one of the afternoon > sessions the interviewer and I spent about half an hour spitballing > approaches for system monitoring problem at scale. I no longer > remember the details. With a little over 15

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-23 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:03:15 +0100, adamv0...@netconsultings.com said: > Hopefully well end up in a world where all checks one can do to figure out > why iBGP session is down along with suggested corrective actions will be coded > in some network self-healing workflow. /me places bets this

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-23 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/23/20 3:26 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:33 AM Michael Douglas wrote: One time I got asked in an interview how to estimate the number of manholes in a city. I replied that I would google 'pretentious interview questions' for a problem solving methodology. Many

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-23 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:33 AM Michael Douglas wrote: > One time I got asked in an interview how to estimate the number of manholes > in a city. I replied that I would google 'pretentious interview questions' > for a problem solving methodology. Many moons ago, I interviewed at Google.

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-23 Thread Mel Beckman
I was going to ask “So where did you eventually get a job after that interview?” :) -mel beckman On Jul 23, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Sabri Berisha wrote:  - On Jul 23, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Michael Douglas wrote: One time I got asked in an interview how to estimate the number of manholes in a

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-23 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Jul 23, 2020, at 6:31 AM, Michael Douglas wrote: > One time I got asked in an interview how to estimate the number of manholes > in a > city. I replied that I would google 'pretentious interview questions' for a > problem solving methodology. Did you get hired? :) Thanks, Sabri

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-23 Thread Mehmet Akcin
I am trying to have a 2nd session tomorrow to go over all discussions here. who would like to join me live on this session and talk about interview questions, experience for network engineers? please let me know. I plan to schedule for 11am pacific tomorrow On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:32 AM

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-23 Thread Michael Douglas
One time I got asked in an interview how to estimate the number of manholes in a city. I replied that I would google 'pretentious interview questions' for a problem solving methodology. On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 5:06 AM wrote: > > Mark Tinka > > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 5:04 AM > > > > On

RE: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-23 Thread adamv0025
> Mark Tinka > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 5:04 AM > > On 23/Jul/20 01:04, Brandon Martin wrote: > > > > > Of course, there's also plenty of folks out there without them or any > > certs at all that are just as useful in practice. Getting those > > particular certifications does, however,

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 23/Jul/20 01:04, Brandon Martin wrote:   > > Of course, there's also plenty of folks out there without them or any > certs at all that are just as useful in practice.  Getting those > particular certifications does, however, seem to be a useful path to > learning things that are actually of

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 23/Jul/20 00:55, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: > And yes (to the main topic of this thread) - I have some certs. > I understand people without certs tend to discard them as > non-relevant or even toxic. Yes, I’ve met “paper” CCIEs, > but also JNCIEs and I can see the point being made. I’ve > met

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Jul 22, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Brandon Martin lists.na...@monmotha.net wrote: Hi, > The CCIE and JNCIE (and perhaps other vendor equivalents) are some of > the few vendor certs I've found often (though not always) meaningful. Well, in the good old days when you could not pass an IE exam by

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Brandon Martin
On 7/22/20 6:55 PM, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: And yes (to the main topic of this thread) - I have some certs. I understand people without certs tend to discard them as non-relevant or even toxic. Yes, I’ve met “paper” CCIEs, but also JNCIEs and I can see the point being made. I’ve met great minds

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
Adam, > On 21 Jul 2020, at 19:13, Mark Tinka wrote: > On 21/Jul/20 18:39, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: >> Little you two know about SDN, please read the following presentation from >> Scott Shenker and then get back here arguing what it is and what it is not: >>

RE: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread adamv0025
> Jeff Bacon > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 1:55 PM > > > Who said anything about boxing your tooling in to SDN tech? You > > described Software Defined Networking as a rabbit hole and snake oil. > > It isn't. It's a class of tools in the networking toolbox and an > > increasingly > useful

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Jeff Bacon
> Who said anything about boxing your tooling in to SDN tech? You > described Software Defined Networking as a rabbit hole and snake oil. > It isn't. It's a class of tools in the networking toolbox and an > increasingly useful one. My toolbox in the garage has torque wrenches and allen wrenches

RE: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread adamv0025
> William Herrin > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 8:21 PM > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 9:57 PM Mark Tinka > wrote: > > Suffice it to say, to this day, we still don't know what SDN means to > > us, hehe. > > Hi Mark, > > The Software Defined Network concept started as, "Let's use commodity >

RE: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread adamv0025
> From: Mel Beckman > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 9:48 PM > > The problem is your door is stuck in 2014 :) > > A lot has happened in the last six years. > Yeah but if you won't get the basics (or fundamental problems in networking as a discipline that SDN is trying to solve) as nicely

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 22/Jul/20 10:10, William Herrin wrote: > Who said anything about boxing your tooling in to SDN tech? You > described Software Defined Networking as a rabbit hole and snake oil. > It isn't. It's a class of tools in the networking toolbox and an > increasingly useful one. Okay. Mark.

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 12:41 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > I'll try this again... > > There will be tooling required to operate your network. Cloud, > connectivity, content, e.t.c. > > The tooling will help the operator accomplish the task required as > efficiently as possible, as long as they keep

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 9:50 AM wrote: > One can't be an expert in many areas, (like CCIE-everything... folks) > Same as Usain Bolt can't swim like Michael Phelps... Polymaths are a thing but they have better use for the space on their resumes than telling you about the certificates they hold.

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 22/Jul/20 01:41, William Herrin wrote: > I suppose it depends what you're trying to accomplish. If you're a > hosting provider and you want to provide a capability both similar to > AWS VPCs and strong enough to not be a joke, you won't get there on > the tools Linux or VMWare provide.

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 22/Jul/20 02:35, Owen DeLong wrote: > That word advantage… I do not think it means what you appear to think it means > in this context. At least not based on some of my experiences with some > of their implementations of certain basic networking features. The context of "advantage" is not

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-22 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 23:04:30 +0200, Robert Raszuk said: > attempt to open innovation into networking ... allowing one to invent > protocols at will as well as setup forwarding tables with arbitrary All of which either get layered onto port 443 or you have to wait for your CGNAT vendor to provide

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jul 21, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 21/Jul/20 22:20, Nick Hilliard wrote: > >> >> IOW, it works if you have a large and homogeneous enough network with >> a sufficiently narrowly product portfolio that you can justify the >> cost of getting enough programming

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:55 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > For the avoidance of doubt, "we still don't know what SDN means to us" > means "we are not sold on the snake oil". Hi Mark, I suppose it depends what you're trying to accomplish. If you're a hosting provider and you want to provide a

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 21/Jul/20 22:20, Nick Hilliard wrote:   > > IOW, it works if you have a large and homogeneous enough network with > a sufficiently narrowly product portfolio that you can justify the > cost of getting enough programming skill to make the cost/benefit > ratio work. > > Some networks are like

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 21/Jul/20 21:21, William Herrin wrote: > The Software Defined Network concept started as, "Let's use commodity > hardware running commodity operating systems to form the control plane > for our network devices." The concept has expanded somewhat to: "Lets > use commodity hardware running

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Robert Raszuk
Bill, > The Software Defined Network concept started as, "Let's use commodity > hardware running commodity operating systems to form the control plane > for our network devices." That's not exactly the real beginning ... the above is more like oh where do we plug this SDN into and how do we sell

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Mel Beckman
Nick, SDN works very well even for tiny networks. Look at Ubiquiti’s SDN controller. Yes, it requires proprietary hardware (proving SDN isn’t only for commodity hardware). But it can scale a network of a single switch up to hundreds of switches with a single point of configuration. You want a

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Mel Beckman
Brandon, The problem is your door is stuck in 2014 :) A lot has happened in the last six years. -mel via cell > On Jul 21, 2020, at 10:26 AM, "adamv0...@netconsultings.com" > wrote: > >  >> >> From: Mark Tinka >> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:14 PM >> >>> On 21/Jul/20 18:39,

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Nick Hilliard
William Herrin wrote on 21/07/2020 20:21: This is happening a lot in the big shops like Amazon that can afford to employ software developers to write purpose-built network code. IOW, it works if you have a large and homogeneous enough network with a sufficiently narrowly product portfolio

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 9:57 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > Suffice it to say, to this day, we still don't know what SDN means to > us, hehe. Hi Mark, The Software Defined Network concept started as, "Let's use commodity hardware running commodity operating systems to form the control plane for our

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 21/Jul/20 19:26, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Well "I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through > it." ;) You misunderstand me, Adam. I am not averse to learning new things. What I am saying is I've spent 10 years on this road, and the summaries you

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Brandon Martin
On 7/21/20 12:55 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: Suffice it to say, to this day, we still don't know what SDN means to us, hehe. I think that's part of the problem. It means too many different things to different people. Much of what people refer to SDN is useful, albeit often pre-existing before

RE: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread adamv0025
> From: Mark Tinka > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:14 PM > > On 21/Jul/20 18:39, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > > Little you two know about SDN, please read the following presentation > from Scott Shenker and then get back here arguing what it is and what it is > not:

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 21/Jul/20 18:39, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: > Little you two know about SDN, please read the following presentation from > Scott Shenker and then get back here arguing what it is and what it is not: > https://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs168/fa14/lectures/lec23-public.pdf I'll pass,

RE: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread adamv0025
> William Herrin > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2020 9:02 PM > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 5:09 AM Mark Tinka > wrote: > > We'll probably spend 95% of the time just talking about who they are, > > and 5% on the role. That has worked well for me in the past decade, > > and none of those hires had any

RE: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread adamv0025
Little you two know about SDN, please read the following presentation from Scott Shenker and then get back here arguing what it is and what it is not: https://inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs168/fa14/lectures/lec23-public.pdf adam

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Ben Cannon
I come from the “we’ve had SDN for years, it’s called L2VPN” but I guess the rest of the world hasn’t been a carrier for 26yrs either. -Ben Ms. Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO b...@6by7.net "The only fully end-to-end encrypted global

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 21/Jul/20 17:43, Mel Beckman wrote: > Have any of those operators shipped an SDM product? If not, then of > course, they are pre-SDN. Just like NASA is pre-commercial space > launch :-) It never occurred to me that SDN was the service provider product. Dang, we've been doing it all wrong

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Mel Beckman
Have any of those operators shipped an SDM product? If not, then of course, they are pre-SDN. Just like NASA is pre-commercial space launch :-) -mel via cell On Jul 21, 2020, at 8:17 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:  On 21/Jul/20 16:59, Mel Beckman wrote: But SDN is NOT just ""SDN = some kind of

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 21/Jul/20 16:59, Mel Beckman wrote: > > But SDN is NOT just ""SDN = some kind of automation””. Its centralized > management with /good /automation built-in. Good automation means > automation that orchestrates cohesive, correct network changes — and > can roll them back — not just scripts

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Mel Beckman
Mark, But SDN is NOT just ""SDN = some kind of automation””. Its centralized management with good automation built-in. Good automation means automation that orchestrates cohesive, correct network changes — and can roll them back — not just scripts that can spew configs into individual devices.

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-21 Thread Nathan Stratton
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 4:45 PM Sander Steffann wrote: > > I find there's a strong INVERSE correlation between the quantity of > > certificates on an applicant's resume and their ability to do the > > job. > > Never got a certificate, don't want one either :) > That's what I said about high

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 21/Jul/20 07:12, Mel Beckman wrote: > Mark, > > There are a slew of fine SDN products out there, from VMware NSX-T in big > enterprise to Ubiquiti UniFiOS in SMBs, and lots of other products aimed at > various market niches. What failed about the original SDN academic vision, > more or

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-20 Thread Mel Beckman
Mark, There are a slew of fine SDN products out there, from VMware NSX-T in big enterprise to Ubiquiti UniFiOS in SMBs, and lots of other products aimed at various market niches. What failed about the original SDN academic vision, more or less, was standardized, vendor-agnostic SDN based on

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 20/Jul/20 23:59, Brandon Martin wrote: > Pass given to those who cram them into a "certificates" or "specifics" > line or similar in order to get around HR filters, limit them to major > certs (or ones your HR dept. specifically demanded), and don't really > mention them otherwise.  Bear in

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-20 Thread Brandon Martin
On 7/20/20 4:02 PM, William Herrin wrote: I find there's a strong INVERSE correlation between the quantity of certificates on an applicant's resume and their ability to do the job. I still have to laugh about the guy who let me know via his resume that he was certified in setting up Kentrox

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-20 Thread Randy Bush
>> I find there's a strong INVERSE correlation between the quantity of >> certificates on an applicant's resume and their ability to do the >> job. > > Never got a certificate, don't want one either :) but now you can get an ncc certificate, certifying that you can actually use their product.

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-20 Thread Sander Steffann
> I find there's a strong INVERSE correlation between the quantity of > certificates on an applicant's resume and their ability to do the > job. Never got a certificate, don't want one either :) Sander signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-20 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/20/20 1:02 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 5:09 AM Mark Tinka wrote: We'll probably spend 95% of the time just talking about who they are, and 5% on the role. That has worked well for me in the past decade, and none of those hires had any "certificates" to impress me

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-20 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 5:09 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > We'll probably spend 95% of the time just talking about who they are, > and 5% on the role. That has worked well for me in the past decade, and > none of those hires had any "certificates" to impress me with, even > though those that didn't make

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Jul/20 22:36, William Herrin wrote: > > You know what job you're interviewing for. What you choose to talk > about tells me volumes about how you think. I'm for this, too. I just like to talk to people, about themselves, and figure out who they are as a person. Once in a while, I'll

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Jul/20 22:14, Matthew Petach wrote: > > I *love* questions like that, because I can immediately respond back > with "well, that depends; did your sysadmin configure rfc1323 > extension support in your TCP stack?  Is SACK enabled?  What about > window scaling?  Does your OS do dynamic

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Jul 14, 2020, at 1:14 PM, Matthew Petach wrote: Hi, > Depending on how the interviewer responds gives me a pretty good idea how much > clue the people I'd be working with have, and how well they work > collaboratively even with people they don't really know. If they respond well > on

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Joe Hamelin
My first question was always: Who was Jon Postel? -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474 > >

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Here At InfoChambers
On 7/14/20 10:49 AM, Michael Thomas wrote: I had a screening interview at Google where the screener asked some ridiculous question that nobody not straight out of school would know, and even then not likely. I was like, wtf? If that's how they treat candidates -- and from everything I've

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
I was once asked at a FANG interview how I would affect incoming traffic using BGP. I listed the usual offenders like AS path and med. He kept asking how else, to which after pondering I said that I cant think of other ways right now. He was insisting I find one, so I theorized on using more

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Should I do another session let’s say tomorrow and y’all join live and share your thoughts? ;-) On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 14:24 Miles Fidelman wrote: > On 7/14/20 4:14 PM, Matthew Petach wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 11:00 Ahmed elBorno wrote: > >> 15 years ago, I applied to a network

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 7/14/20 4:14 PM, Matthew Petach wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 11:00 Ahmed elBorno > wrote: 15 years ago, I applied to a network admin role at Google, it was for their corporate office, not even the production network. I had less than two years

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/14/20 1:25 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: - If someone asks me to do an algorithm or coding question, I generally tell them to pound sand; that I generally use the language statement or a standard library, or look up hard stuff in Knuth - and then ask them if they'd like to discuss the

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 1:26 PM wrote: > > William Herrin > > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:32 PM > > > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:17 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > > On 7/14/20 12:09 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:12 PM Mehmet Akcin > > wrote: > > > >> I am

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/14/20 1:23 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: --- mpet...@netflight.com wrote: From: Matthew Petach On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 11:00 Ahmed elBorno wrote: I had less than two years experience. The interviewer asked me: [...] 2) If we had a 1GB file that we need to transfer between America and Europe,

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/14/20 1:14 PM, Matthew Petach wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 11:00 Ahmed elBorno > wrote: 15 years ago, I applied to a network admin role at Google, it was for their corporate office, not even the production network. I had less than two years

RE: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread adamv0025
> William Herrin > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:32 PM > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:17 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 7/14/20 12:09 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:12 PM Mehmet Akcin > wrote: > > >> I am hosting a live show a few times a month about internet > > >>

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
More systems engineer than network engineer - though most of the systems I've worked on have been things like network management, and large, distributed, networked systems. Anyway... I generally ask people: 1. Tell me about yourself:  A good way to find out how someone thinks about

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Scott Weeks
--- mpet...@netflight.com wrote: From: Matthew Petach On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 11:00 Ahmed elBorno wrote: > I had less than two years experience. > > The interviewer asked me: > [...] > 2) If we had a 1GB file that we need to transfer between America and > Europe, how much time do we need,

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Matthew Petach
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020, 11:00 Ahmed elBorno wrote: > 15 years ago, I applied to a network admin role at Google, it was for > their corporate office, not even the production network. > > I had less than two years experience. > > The interviewer asked me: > [...] > 2) If we had a 1GB file that we

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/14/20 12:32 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:17 PM Michael Thomas wrote: On 7/14/20 12:09 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:12 PM Mehmet Akcin wrote: I am hosting a live show a few times a month about internet infrastructure and today's topics

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:12 PM Mehmet Akcin wrote: > if you have suggestions on topics to cover helping network operations > engineering that you want to see in here, please feel free to contact me > off-list, and let's create unique content that can be helpful to others. I'm also a fan of

RE: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread adamv0025
Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: questions asked during network engineer interview 15 years ago, I applied to a network admin role at Google, it was for their corporate office, not even the production network. I had less than two years experience. The interviewer asked me: 1) What

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:59 AM Ahmed elBorno wrote: > > 15 years ago, I applied to a network admin role at Google, it was for their > corporate office, not even the production network. > > I had less than two years experience. > > The interviewer asked me: > > 1) What is the difference between

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:17 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > On 7/14/20 12:09 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:12 PM Mehmet Akcin wrote: > >> I am hosting a live show a few times a month about internet infrastructure > >> and today's topics were, your favorite questions asked

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/14/20 12:09 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:12 PM Mehmet Akcin wrote: I am hosting a live show a few times a month about internet infrastructure and today's topics were, your favorite questions asked network engineers - you can watch the recording here

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:12 PM Mehmet Akcin wrote: > I am hosting a live show a few times a month about internet infrastructure > and today's topics were, your favorite questions asked network engineers - > you can watch the recording here > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3pvikTrF0M > > if

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/14/20 11:19 AM, Peter Kristolaitis wrote: On 2020-07-14 1:55 p.m., Michael Thomas wrote: But I try as much as possible to put candidates at ease because I know that not everybody reacts to interviews the same, which is sadly not the case far too often. Mike I often ask a question

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
On 2020-07-14 1:55 p.m., Michael Thomas wrote: But I try as much as possible to put candidates at ease because I know that not everybody reacts to interviews the same, which is sadly not the case far too often. Mike I often ask a question early in the interview to the effect of "Tell me

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Ahmed elBorno
15 years ago, I applied to a network admin role at Google, it was for their corporate office, not even the production network. I had less than two years experience. The interviewer asked me: 1) What is the difference between flow balancing techniques on Cisco IOS and Linux? 2) If we had a 1GB

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/14/20 10:46 AM, Shawn L via NANOG wrote: I completely agree.  One of the people I used to do interviews with would look through the resume, etc. and then say something like "this all looks good. Tell me about something you've done".  And we'd move on to talk about projects and how they

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/14/20 10:33 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:20 , Michael Thomas > wrote: I once failed a network engineering interview because I couldn’t recite the OSPF LSA types by number from memory. It was fine, the fact that was a key question in the interview

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Shawn L via NANOG
solving the problem. -Original Message- From: "Owen DeLong" Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:33pm To: "Michael Thomas" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: questions asked during network engineer interview On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:20 , Michael Thomas <[ m...@mtcc.com ](

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:20 , Michael Thomas wrote: > > > > On 7/13/20 8:16 PM, Greg Skinner via NANOG wrote: >> If you ever decide to revisit this subject, I recall it was covered here in >> this thread started by Bill Herrin >>

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas
On 7/13/20 8:16 PM, Greg Skinner via NANOG wrote: If you ever decide to revisit this subject, I recall it was covered here in this thread started by Bill Herrin . My general feelings on the subject of tech interviews are

Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Greg Skinner via NANOG
If you ever decide to revisit this subject, I recall it was covered here in this thread started by Bill Herrin . My general feelings on the subject of tech interviews are summarized in the “interview anti-loop” section of this

questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-11 Thread Mehmet Akcin
hey there, I am hosting a live show a few times a month about internet infrastructure and today's topics were, your favorite questions asked network engineers - you can watch the recording here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3pvikTrF0M if you have suggestions on topics to cover helping