Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Sep/20 21:09, aar...@gvtc.com wrote: > Thanks for the heads up Mark... I see docs showing SRv6 not supported until > XR 6.6, I put XR7 in my lab to start testing it... I wasn't talking about SRv6... I am talking about SR-MPLS, signaled via and supported for IPv6, in the IGP. Mark.

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-12 Thread Adrian Farrel
>> Does anyone know the scope on why we have 2 names for this ? > > SPRING is the IETF working group name - Source Packet Routing in Networking > Segment Routing is under SPRING Yeah, sorry, this was my fault. Gotta have a catchy name. As to "SPRINGv4" as others have said, this is not a

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread aaron1
I found these threads about BGP Prefix-SID decoded needed for Wireshark. Anyone know what wireshark version fixes this ? I just installed 3.2.6 and that doesn’t seem to do it https://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-bugs/201603/msg00621.html

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread aaron1
: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names SR could be instantiated with 2 data planes, MPLS and IPv6 - SR-MPLS and SRv6 respectively. MPLS data plane could be instantiated over either IPv4 or IPv6 (similarly to LDP6), MPLSoUDP->SRoUDP allows transport of SR-MPLS over IP/UDP(RFC8

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread aaron1
Thanks for the heads up Mark... I see docs showing SRv6 not supported until XR 6.6, I put XR7 in my lab to start testing it... I have what seems to be a good test for vpnv4 mpls l3vpn over SRv6 IS-IS in core This is my first go at this so still learning. Srv6 has a strange locator thing with

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
I have described what SR is, not what vendors (for variety of reasons) do with it, hence “could” ;-) As a side note - SRoUDP works seamlessly over either v4 or v6. Regards, Jeff > On Sep 10, 2020, at 12:35, Mark Tinka wrote: > >  > >> On 10/Sep/20 10:40, Jeff Tantsura wrote: >> >> MPLS

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Sep/20 10:40, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > MPLS data  plane could be instantiated over either IPv4 or IPv6 > (similarly to LDP6), Be mindful of sketchy (or non-existent) IPv6 support in SR for IS-IS and OSPF across all vendors. Mark.

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread Jeff Tantsura
SR could be instantiated with 2 data planes, MPLS and IPv6 - SR-MPLS and SRv6 respectively. MPLS data plane could be instantiated over either IPv4 or IPv6 (similarly to LDP6), MPLSoUDP->SRoUDP allows transport of SR-MPLS over IP/UDP(RFC8663) and could be used to build innovative, end2end

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, at 08:08, aar...@gvtc.com wrote: > Interesting... I've never heard of SPRINGv4 Neither did I until a few days ago. > I wonder if SPRINGv4 is like SRv6, meaning, SPRING(SR) over IPv4 dataplane? > Or, am I reading way too much into that SPRINGv4 acronym? Like SR-VXLAN ?

RE: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-10 Thread aaron1
Interesting... I've never heard of SPRINGv4 https://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/routing/ptx-series/datasheet s/1000538.page I found it in the bottom section I wonder if SPRINGv4 is like SRv6, meaning, SPRING(SR) over IPv4 dataplane? Or, am I reading way too much into that SPRINGv4

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-09 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean via NANOG
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, at 10:14, Jeff Tantsura via NANOG wrote: > Out of curiosity - if you are interested in SR, where are you getting > your information from if not IETF (SPRING)? Much beloved vendor claims support for "SPRINGv4" feature for a certain family of products (I personally expect

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-06 Thread Jeff Tantsura via NANOG
Aaron, Out of curiosity - if you are interested in SR, where are you getting your information from if not IETF (SPRING)? As for history - we (at Redback) have published 1st draft describing SR-MPLS data plane in 2003 (LDP control plane). Regards, Jeff > On Sep 6, 2020, at 09:53, Saku Ytti via

Re: sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-06 Thread Saku Ytti via NANOG
Hey, On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 04:26, Aaron Gould via NANOG wrote: > Does anyone know the scope on why we have 2 names for this ? Seriously, was > it one of those things where a vendor started doing it first (pre-standard) > as sr, and then ietf started standardizing it as spring ? …or was it

sr - spring - what's the deal with 2 names

2020-09-05 Thread Aaron Gould via NANOG
Please forgive if this has already been spoken to. if so, you can simply send the link to old mail list entries and that will suffice. otherwise. Does anyone know the scope on why we have 2 names for this ? Seriously, was it one of those things where a vendor started doing it first