Re: [Nanog-futures] OT: iPhone Problems

2009-10-04 Thread Gadi Evron
Shrdlu wrote: Clue Store wrote: Mine's rebooted at leat 3 times a day sine the upgrade :( What ever happened to quality control http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2152619tstart=0 At the risk of sounding too much like the cranky retiree that I am, I would like to see

Re: [Nanog-futures] Updates to the MLC warning process

2009-08-09 Thread Gadi Evron
Simon Lyall wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Gadi Evron wrote: Beg pardon, but does this include a message to the list itself or only to the offender? When the thread is first moderated a message will be sent to the list ( at least for now ). Each message sent to a moderated thread will receive

Re: [Nanog-futures] Updates to the MLC warning process

2009-08-07 Thread Gadi Evron
on this. -- Kris on behalf of the MLC ___ Nanog-futures mailing list Nanog-futures@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog-futures -- Gadi Evron, g...@linuxbox.org. Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com

Re: [Nanog-futures] spam-l list

2009-05-15 Thread Gadi Evron
Jim Popovitch wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 02:29, Jo Rhett jrh...@netconsonance.com wrote: That's funny, given that Mailman is the source of significant amounts of backscatter. Mailman is neither an MTA nor a MUA. Something before or after Mailman is backscattering. -Jim P. Mailing

Re: [Nanog-futures] Draft Policy re individual sites

2009-05-01 Thread Gadi Evron
Joel Jaeggli wrote: Simon Lyall wrote: On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Martin Hannigan wrote: Not such a great idea. A down search engine is an operational problem whether its application or network. It makes lots of phones ring and finger pointing at our networks. This costs us money. Same for major

Re: [Nanog-futures] Fwd: ADMIN: Reminder on off-topic threads

2009-04-23 Thread Gadi Evron
Robert E. Seastrom wrote: No, let's not. To steal a line from rbush, we tried that three years ago and it didn't work then. Good point, but the situation is very different than what it was three years ago. We have a moderation team, we have nanog-futures for meta discussion, etc. Further,

Re: [Nanog-futures] Fwd: ADMIN: Reminder on off-topic threads

2009-04-23 Thread Gadi Evron
Cat Okita wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Gadi Evron wrote: facts need to be aligned. What we are not happy with is how moderation works. Speak for yourself ; I'm quite sure that I'm not a part of the 'we' you mention here. Indeed! ;) To be clear, we includes me and others who spoke here who

Re: [Nanog-futures] MLC transparency issues

2009-04-07 Thread Gadi Evron
kris foster wrote: Hi everyone I am going to preface this by saying that the MLC appreciates that transparency is of the most importance to the community, and that we have not lived up to this as completely as we should have. We have recently been experimenting with thread moderation.

[Nanog-futures] issues with heavy-handed thread moderation and visibility

2009-04-06 Thread Gadi Evron
Fellow NANOG-ers. I am very happy eith the recent revival of traffic on NANOG on relevant subjects, as I am sure we all are. My email is about traffic we don't see and unless I am missing something, don't know gets filtered. due to what I believe is very heavy-handed moderation by the admin

Re: [Nanog-futures] issues with heavy-handed thread moderation and visibility

2009-04-06 Thread Gadi Evron
Christopher Morrow wrote: do you have a link to this thread? (I don't actually see it in my box, so I fear I missed it for other reasons) oops, sorry... I did get the original message + ~6 followups. I just hadn't read them :( The follow-ups on-list were not extremely operational, the

Re: [Nanog-futures] issues with heavy-handed thread moderation and visibility

2009-04-06 Thread Gadi Evron
Joe Provo wrote: Gadi, Some valid points are raised. While additional discussion from interested folks here is encouraged, suffice to say that the topic will be on the SC call tomorrow, as we are the folks whom receive escalation appeals of MLC actions. Thank you Joe. I appreciate your

Re: [Nanog-futures] NANOG-L, Paging, and the AUP

2008-10-05 Thread Gadi Evron
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, Gadi Evron wrote: The question is IF given that we ensure these folks really did all they can on their own, AND only then asked for help: Is the end of line place to ask for that help NANOG, or somewhere else? Gadi. [replying to self] A good example just hit NANOG

Re: [Nanog-futures] Can we stop the Intercage discussion mess now?

2008-09-26 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 02:58:36PM -0400, Brian Raaen wrote: Agreed... Mailman has a feature for emergency moderation of all post, created just for flame wars like this. chuckle I rate this one a 2 on a 10 scale of toastiness. But I think I probably

Re: [Nanog-futures] Can we stop the Intercage discussion mess now?

2008-09-25 Thread Gadi Evron
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Brian Raaen wrote: Agreed... Mailman has a feature for emergency moderation of all post, created just for flame wars like this. I don't think it's a flame war, just an active discussion most have something to say about. I still think it should stop at this point but while

Re: [Nanog-futures] [Outages] Outages have an Outage? (fwd)

2008-06-17 Thread Gadi Evron
will be welcome, and we appreciate your offer of help. One thing we do appreciate help on is another NS, which is already being taken care of. Gadi. On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Gadi Evron wrote: Lightning storm, subsequent commercial power failure. UPS not up due to restructing. We are working

Re: [Nanog-futures] blacklists getting out of hand?

2007-12-02 Thread Gadi Evron
Another point to this good list is: Without blacklists such as the SBL we would no longer have email today. That's not sensationalism, it's fact. Two main reasons: 1. Spam over-whelms servers incoming. 2. Spam over-whelms server outgoing. Thank you, Gadi. On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Rich