Traffic Shaping on ISPs

2009-09-10 Thread Jake Vargas
Hi Nanog, We have recently introduced a MMORPG (online game) to the Internet. We currently are receiving many complaints from UK (and a few EU) customers of sudden traffic loss or slowness which makes the game unplayable. The complaints come through like clockwork from 6:00PM to 11:59PM

RE: Traffic Shaping on ISPs

2009-09-10 Thread Lasse Schmidt
Hi Jake While I cannot confirm officially, there is a lot of rumors, that several larger UK ISP's are throttling traffic at that time period. I am not sure who to contact, but the individual ISP's to solve this, from your point, maybe another NANOG'er knows. Lasse -Original

Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Rens
Hi all, I'm encountering a problem with a wireless STM-1 link which has a switch connected at each end. The wireless link has Gigabit Ethernet interfaces and so have my switches. When I ping between the 2 switches via that wireless link I'm getting a lot of pings that are lost. The

Re: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Adam Goodman
Sounds like this might be an Ethernet negotiaton problem Sent from my phone On Sep 10, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Rens r...@autempspourmoi.be wrote: Hi all, I'm encountering a problem with a wireless STM-1 link which has a switch connected at each end. The wireless link has Gigabit

RE: Traffic Shaping on ISPs

2009-09-10 Thread Jake Vargas
While I cannot confirm officially, there is a lot of rumors, that several larger UK ISP's are throttling traffic at that time period. I am not sure who to contact, but the individual ISP's to solve this, from your point, maybe another NANOG'er knows. Hi Lasse, Thanks for the reply. We wrote

RE: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Rens
All the interfaces are forced to 1Gbps and full duplex. Maybe I should give some extra info. All the traffic seems to pass ok via that link but I have seen that often OSPF adjacencies go down/up , I suspect that the HELLO packets are being dropped that pass via that link. That's why I started to

Re: Traffic Shaping on ISPs

2009-09-10 Thread Astrodog
BT/Virgin throttling information: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/11/virgin_media_throttle_extension/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/07/bt_samknows_bandwidth_throttling/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8077839.stm

RE: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Rens
Yes all the radio RF levels are 100% ok. -Original Message- From: Josh Cheney [mailto:josh.che...@gmail.com] Sent: jeudi 10 septembre 2009 12:47 To: Rens Cc: 'Adam Goodman'; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Wireless STM-1 link I'm assuming that you have checked all of the wireless

Re: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Arie Vayner
Rens, Does not sound like the symptoms for what I want to write about, but this is something you need to consider in any way: When you run sub-rate links (i.e. 1GE interface with really 155Mbps as the service) you need to make sure that you do not try to push more traffic than the link can take.

Re: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Florian Weimer
All the interfaces are forced to 1Gbps and full duplex. This takes the interface out of spec, IIRC. Try with auto-negotation enabled. -- Florian Weimerfwei...@bfk.de BFK edv-consulting GmbH http://www.bfk.de/ Kriegsstraße 100 tel: +49-721-96201-1 D-76133

RE: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Rens
I have tried both actually, forced and auto, same issue -Original Message- From: Florian Weimer [mailto:fwei...@bfk.de] Sent: jeudi 10 septembre 2009 15:04 To: Rens Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Wireless STM-1 link All the interfaces are forced to 1Gbps and full duplex. This takes

Re: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Kieran Murphy
Whats the utilization of the link at the time that you're seeing problems? On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Rens r...@autempspourmoi.be wrote: I have tried both actually, forced and auto, same issue -Original Message- From: Florian Weimer [mailto:fwei...@bfk.de] Sent: jeudi 10

RE: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Rens
Between 20 80 Mbps, no real relation between the problem and the time of a day/higher/lower traffic _ From: Kieran Murphy [mailto:da...@daffy.za.net] Sent: jeudi 10 septembre 2009 15:14 To: Rens Cc: Florian Weimer; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Wireless STM-1 link Whats the

IPSEC-VRF MIB

2009-09-10 Thread Bailey Stephen
Hey all, I am looking to monitor the number of active IPSEC tunnels terminating in a given VRF via SNMP I can use the following command on the device (Cisco 3845 - 12.4(22)T) Vpn#show crypto mib ipsec flowmib global vrf test-vrf vrf test-vrf Active Tunnels: 2

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Dave Martin
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 04:13:18PM -0700, Jay Hennigan wrote: JC Dill wrote: As for a role account, there is postmaster. I would think that the best hope in the real world, rather than an autoresponder would be an RFC that clearly defines text accompanying an SMTP rejection notice

Re: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Brian Reichert
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:55:40AM +0200, Rens wrote: All the interfaces are forced to 1Gbps and full duplex. I thought that with 1000T, you need to keep autonegotiation in place: http://etherealmind.com/2008/07/15/ethernet-autonegotiation-works-why-how-standard-should-be-set/ A major

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Nick Feamster
Hi Tom (and NANOG), You may be interested in an alternative approach, motivated by the very problem you are facing (see below). Our system, SNARE, develops IP reputation automatically based on a combination of network features. We'll discuss the pros and cons of this approach at MAAWG. The

Re: IPSEC-VRF MIB

2009-09-10 Thread Jason Bertoch
Bailey Stephen wrote: I am looking to monitor the number of active IPSEC tunnels terminating in a given VRF via SNMP Vpn#show crypto mib ipsec flowmib global vrf test-vrf vrf test-vrf Active Tunnels: 2 ... Is there anyway I can get this ActiveTunnels value

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Peter Beckman
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Mark Andrews wrote: What a load of rubbish. How is ARIN or any RIR/LIR supposed to know the intent of use? Why don't we just blacklist everything and only whitelist those we know are good? Because the cost of determining who is good and who is not has a great cost.

RE: IPSEC-VRF MIB

2009-09-10 Thread Bailey Stephen
Will give it a go also, cheers Ste Bailey FUJITSU -Original Message- From: Jason Bertoch [mailto:ja...@i6ix.com] Sent: 10 September 2009 15:26 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPSEC-VRF MIB Bailey Stephen wrote: I am looking to monitor the number of active IPSEC tunnels terminating

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Benjamin Billon
Why don't we just blacklist everything and only whitelist those we know are good? snip Note we all could start using IPv6 and avoid this problem altogether. snip Yeah. When ISP will start receiving SMTP traffic in IPv6, they could start to accept whitelisted senders only. IPv6 emails ==

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:42:13PM +0200, Benjamin Billon wrote: Why don't we just blacklist everything and only whitelist those we know are good? snip Note we all could start using IPv6 and avoid this problem altogether. snip Yeah. When ISP will start receiving SMTP traffic in IPv6,

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Kevin Loch
Benjamin Billon wrote: Why don't we just blacklist everything and only whitelist those we know are good? snip Note we all could start using IPv6 and avoid this problem altogether. snip Yeah. When ISP will start receiving SMTP traffic in IPv6, they could start to accept whitelisted senders

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Peter Beckman
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Benjamin Billon wrote: Why don't we just blacklist everything and only whitelist those we know are good? snip Note we all could start using IPv6 and avoid this problem altogether. snip Yeah. When ISP will start receiving SMTP traffic in IPv6, they could start to

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Benjamin Billon
You're not Hotmail =)

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:30:02 PDT, Leo Vegoda said: Putting these addresses back into use does not mean that they have to be allocated to networks where they'll number mail servers. ARIN staff is doubtless aware of the history of these blocks and will presumably do their best to allocate them

Re: BGP Confederation over Route Reflector

2009-09-10 Thread Buraglio, Nicholas D
Lots of things can be used to determine how you decide to set up your BGP peers. https://www.juniper.net/customers/csc/documentation/techdocs/downloads/pdf/350010.pdf has a decent amount of information on some of the differences that can help you decide how to set up your peerings. nb

Re: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Kenny Sallee
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Rens r...@autempspourmoi.be wrote: All the interfaces are forced to 1Gbps and full duplex. Maybe I should give some extra info. All the traffic seems to pass ok via that link but I have seen that often OSPF adjacencies go down/up , I suspect that the HELLO

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Joe Greco
Because the cost of determining who is good and who is not has a great cost. If you buy an IP block, regardless of your intent, that IP block should not have the ill-will of the previous owner passed on with it. Might as well be the end of discussion, right there, then, because what

RE: Wireless STM-1 link

2009-09-10 Thread Paul Stewart
I totally agree with everything that Mike has posted here... one thing I wanted to add is that a wireless link is only as good as it's engineered. We have many rock solid wireless links in use here - with proper engineering and ongoing maintenance we very rarely have issues. We do have some links

Re: BGP Confederation over Route Reflector

2009-09-10 Thread Jason Iannone
I would say confeds are more appropriate for larger ibgp networks. You can have reflectors inside confederations. See the BGP chapter of the JNCIP book. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Buraglio, Nicholas D burag...@illinois.edu wrote: Lots of things can be used to determine how you decide to

ARIN XXIV follows NANOG 47 in Dearborn, MI

2009-09-10 Thread John Curran
Folks - Just a reminder - ARIN XXIV will follow NANOG 47, starting with a joint program session on Wednesday on IPv6. If you will be staying for the ARIN meeting on Thursday and Friday, please refer to https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/ARIN-XXIV/ for logistics registration information

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread David Conrad
On Sep 9, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: Not sure when ICANN got into the business of economic bailouts, ?? but the mechanism that ICANN has defined seems patently unfair. RFC 2777 is unfair? Or are you unhappy that LACNIC and AfriNIC have 2 /8s from the least tainted pools?

WS-X6148A-GE-TX performance question

2009-09-10 Thread Scott Spencer
Are the X6148A cards dedicated 1 gb/s uplink for each port ( shared 32 Gb/s bus , as long as each port is it's own 1 gb/s still to the 32gb/s bus and not shared with 7 other ports, so effectively just 125Mb/s per port then if all used at full/even capacity) ? I can't really find anything much on

Re: WS-X6148A-GE-TX performance question

2009-09-10 Thread Bill Blackford
There was a good thread on Cisco-nsp regarding this exact subject recently. My recollection is that both X6148 and X6148A have just 6 1GB ASICs. Therefore the over subscription rate is 8:1. The biggest difference between these LC's is that X6148A will support large MTU whereas X6148 will not. -b

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:21 PM, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Sep 9, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote: Not sure when ICANN got into the business of economic bailouts, ?? The blog posting implies it: AfriNIC and LACNIC have fewest IPv4 /8s and service the regions

Re: WS-X6148A-GE-TX performance question

2009-09-10 Thread Tim Lampman
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SXF/native/release/notes/OL_4164.html#wp2563293 Scott Spencer wrote: Are the X6148A cards dedicated 1 gb/s uplink for each port ( shared 32 Gb/s bus , as long as each port is it's own 1 gb/s still to the 32gb/s bus and not

RE: WS-X6148A-GE-TX performance question

2009-09-10 Thread Crooks, Sam
the other difference between WS-X6148-GE-TX and WS-X6148A-GE-TX is the A has better QoS queuing potential (more hardware queues available) and a lower list price... As I recall, there are 6 ethernet controllers with 8 ports on each... (8:1 oversubscription among the adjacent ports in a port group

RE: WS-X6148A-GE-TX performance question

2009-09-10 Thread Holmes,David A
Cisco recommends both cards for access-layer use, principally as wiring closet aggregation for desktop users. Cisco recommends 65xx or 67xx line cards for backbone (read deterministic) connections, which means that only 65xx devices with sup720s, or older switch fabric modules can be used for

Re: WS-X6148A-GE-TX performance question

2009-09-10 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 10/09/2009 22:17, Scott Spencer wrote: I can't really find anything much on X6148A internal architecture online, but it would seem that each port gets its own 1gb/s link to the card/backplane, and that the bottleneck then is the 32gb/s backplane (which is fine, as long as it's not 1 gb/s per

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Leo Vegoda
On 09/09/2009 8:48, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: [...] What a load of rubbish. How is ARIN or any RIR/LIR supposed to know the intent of use? In my limited experience, requesting address space from ARIN involved describing what I would be doing with it. YMMV. Leo

Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

2009-09-10 Thread Scott Weeks
--- leo.veg...@icann.org wrote: In my limited experience, requesting address space from ARIN involved describing what I would be doing with it. YMMV. - That's the easy part of the process. Proof of what you did with what you already have assigned to

[Nanog-futures] Charter amendments

2009-09-10 Thread Steve Feldman
I just sent a long message to the nanog-announce list which I won't bother repeating here. But the summary is: Does anyone want to discuss charter amendments for this year? If so, this is the place. http://www.nanog.org/governance/elections/2009elections/2009charteramend.php Note that the