Cisco GRE/IPSec performance, 3845 ISR/3945 ISR G2

2010-11-18 Thread Christopher J. Pilkington
We're running GRE/IPSec transport over a point-to-point DS3. We're also doing some QoS. The traffic mix is voice; our average packet size can be as low as 250 bytes at times. We are seeing incredibly high CPU when the traffic levels approach 30Mb/s and around 11kpps in each direction, at times

GBLX Routing Issues

2010-11-18 Thread Tim Donahue
We have several clients who are experiencing downtime right now on GBLX's network, as well as seeing some intermittent routing problems coming from our GBLX link. Has anyone been able to get more than the standard The technicians are trying to isolate the problem out of GBLX at this point?

CFP: COMSNETS 2011 (Deadline in 4 days: Sept 27, 11:59pm PDT)

2010-11-18 Thread Ramana Kompella
COMSNETS 2011 The THIRD International Conference on COMmunication Systems and NETworks January 4-8, 2011, Bangalore, India http://www.comsnets.org Email: comsnets2...@ece.iisc.ernet.in (In Co-operation with ACM

Re: GBLX Routing Issues

2010-11-18 Thread Paul WALL
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Tim Donahue tdona...@vonmail.vonworldwide.com wrote: We have several clients who are experiencing downtime right now on GBLX's network, as well as seeing some intermittent routing problems coming from our GBLX link.  Has anyone been able to get more than the

CFP: COMSNETS 2011 (Call for Participation)

2010-11-18 Thread Ramana Kompella
COMSNETS 2011 The THIRD International Conference on COMmunication Systems and NETworks January 4-8, 2011, Bangalore, India http://www.comsnets.org Email: comsnets2...@ece.iisc.ernet.in (In Co-operation with ACM

Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-18 Thread Paul WALL
What are the layer 8-9 issues? Drive Slow, Paul Wall On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Mehmet Akcin meh...@akcin.net wrote: On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote: Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at any of their major datacenters, especially

RE: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-18 Thread Justin Horstman
8 users 9 politics and policies -Original Message- From: Paul WALL [mailto:pauldotw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:55 AM To: Mehmet Akcin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: experience with equinix exchange What are the layer 8-9 issues? Drive Slow, Paul Wall

Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread William Herrin
Hiya folks, Why are your respective companies treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter instead of a standard technical change request like IP addresses or BGP? Sprint and Qwest, I know you're guilty. How many of the rest of you are making IPv6 installation harder for your customers than it needs

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2010-11-18 Thread bmanning
http://www.isc.org/store/logoware-clothing/isc-9-layer-osi-model-cotton-t-shirt --bill On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:01:39AM -0800, Steve Miller wrote: politics, finance... On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Paul WALL pauldotw...@gmail.com wrote: What are the layer 8-9 issues?

Re: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/18/2010 11:06, William Herrin wrote: Hiya folks, Why are your respective companies treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter instead of a standard technical change request like IP addresses or BGP? Sprint and Qwest, I know you're guilty. How many of the rest of you are making IPv6

RE: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread Paul Stewart
We treat it as a technical request - a MAC of sorts. The only time we would treat it as a sales matter is when the customer requires technical assistance with their configuration or network design (different matter). Paul -Original Message- From: William Herrin

Re: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread Owen DeLong
Not us... We're making it about as easy as possible. In many cases, we offer discounts for dual-stacking. Owen On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:06 AM, William Herrin wrote: Hiya folks, Why are your respective companies treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter instead of a standard technical change

Re: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread Jack Bates
Pricing hasn't been an issue when I've dealt with them. It's been more of a Have your account manager issue the order so we can make the appropriate changes. which is just a business process and not unexpected. Only reason I don't have v6 on Qwest is that I'm connected to a Juniper and I

RE: Cisco 6500 QoS Priority Queuing (DSCP EXP based)

2010-11-18 Thread Rampley Jr, Jim F
As it relates directly to QoS on 6700 series cards, yes those blades do COS based QoS. So if you want to put voice traffic in a priority queue you would do something like this: ! map COS 5 to the priority queue, assuming you want COS 5 in the priority queue priority-queue cos-map 1 5 ! Set the

Re: Prefix 120.29.240.0/21

2010-11-18 Thread Florian Weimer
* Saku Ytti: I think we really need community tool to test BGP implementations against known/past bugs and unknown (fuzzied) bugs. Testing is the easy part. Meeting all the requirements for getting the fix rolled out on the (relevant parts of the) Internet is impossible because many ISPs have

IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Nick Olsen
Curious as to who is running IPv6 with TW Telecom or Cogent. I'm wanting to turn up native IPv6 with them, And wanted to hear thoughts/experiences. I assume it should be a non-event. We've already got a prefix from arin that we are going to announce. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 11/18/2010 4:39 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Curious as to who is running IPv6 with TW Telecom or Cogent. I'm wanting to turn up native IPv6 with them, And wanted to hear thoughts/experiences. I assume it should be a non-event. We've already got a prefix from arin that we are going to announce.

RE: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Ryan Finnesey
We have it up and running with cogent we have had no issues with cogent. But have a much larger issue in everyone we need to connect with is still using IPv4. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Nick Olsen [mailto:n...@flhsi.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:39 PM To:

RE: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Sprint keeps telling us they do not yet support IPv6. Is this not the case? -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:se...@rollernet.us] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:12 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter? On

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Lee Riemer
Try tracerouting to 2001:500:4:13::81 (www.arin.net) or 2001:470:0:76::2 (www.he.net) via Cogent. On 11/18/2010 4:08 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: We have it up and running with cogent we have had no issues with cogent. But have a much larger issue in everyone we need to connect with is still

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Jon Auer
Technically it was a non-event. Layer 8 wise, they refused to turn up IPv6 without a renewal or new order. Time Warner Cable is demanding a new order and additional costs to support V6. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Curious as to who is running IPv6 with TW

Re: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 02:10:56PM -0800, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Sprint keeps telling us they do not yet support IPv6. http://www.sprintv6.net/sprintlink_ipv6_overview.html Best regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: d...@cluenet.de -- d...@ircnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0

RE: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread George, Wes E [NTK]
-Original Message- From: William Herrin [mailto:b...@herrin.us] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:06 PM Why are your respective companies treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter instead of a standard technical change request like IP addresses or BGP? [WES] Because in most

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Nick Olsen
TW Telecom, Not Time Warner Cable. And TW Telecom already told me it was a simple change order with a NRC of 25.00 Haven't talked to cogent about it yet. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net Sent: Thursday,

Re: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/18/2010 14:10, Ryan Finnesey wrote: Sprint keeps telling us they do not yet support IPv6. Is this not the case? I'd say that's not completely true. IPv6 is not available everywhere on the edge of 1239, but it is available. Contact your rep and place an SCA request for dual stack on

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Jon Auer
Good to know about TWT, and yes, I know that TWT != TWC... Figured it was a good datapoint considering the concurrent discussion of providers charging for v6... On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: TW Telecom, Not Time Warner Cable. And TW Telecom already told me

Re: Cisco GRE/IPSec performance, 3845 ISR/3945 ISR G2

2010-11-18 Thread Pete Lumbis
This is probably more appropriate for the cisco-nsp list, but what process is taking up the CPU or is it due to interrupts? To the best of my knowledge the crypto should be hardware accelerated, while everything else is going to be done in software on the 3800. -Pete On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 11/18/2010 5:14 PM, Lee Riemer wrote: Try tracerouting to 2001:500:4:13::81 (www.arin.net) or 2001:470:0:76::2 (www.he.net) via Cogent. Interesting. I noticed a similar issue with ipv6.cnn.com today. I dont see it via TATA, but see it via Cogent. So whats the story behind it and ARIN

Re: Cisco GRE/IPSec performance, 3845 ISR/3945 ISR G2

2010-11-18 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/18/2010 14:39, Pete Lumbis wrote: This is probably more appropriate for the cisco-nsp list, but what process is taking up the CPU or is it due to interrupts? To the best of my knowledge the crypto should be hardware accelerated, while everything else is going to be done in software on

Re: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/18/2010 14:24, George, Wes E [NTK] wrote: [WES] Bill, I know that you mean well and you're just trying to push IPv6 deployment, and sometimes a little public shame goes a long way, but in the future, before you call my company out in public with tenuous assertions like this, please at

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 11/18/2010 5:44 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: On 11/18/2010 5:14 PM, Lee Riemer wrote: Try tracerouting to 2001:500:4:13::81 (www.arin.net) or 2001:470:0:76::2 (www.he.net) via Cogent. Interesting. I noticed a similar issue with ipv6.cnn.com today. I dont see it via TATA, but see it via

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Curious as to who is running IPv6 with TW Telecom or Cogent. I'm wanting to turn up native IPv6 with them, And wanted to hear thoughts/experiences. I assume it should be a non-event. We've already got a prefix from arin that we

RE: Cisco GRE/IPSec performance, 3845 ISR/3945 ISR G2

2010-11-18 Thread Rettke, Brian
Do you have the VPN/SSL AIM module? That would offload the crypto work. Supposedly capable of full 100Mbps line rate, I have them in 2811s. Sincerely, Brian A . Rettke RHCT, CCDP, CCNP, CCIP Network Engineer, CableONE Internet Services -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Nick Olsen
Ah, I'm always quick to jump to the TWT !=TWC point. As many people I talk to get that wrong. But yes, Great data point. Seems like most of the bigger upstreams support IPv6. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Jon Auer

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Nick Olsen
That's what I'm hearing. Cogent refuses to peer with HE via IPv6. So cogent IPv6 Customers currently can not hit things at HE. And they can't do anything about it. Besides 6to4 tunneling and BGP peering with HE (or native, If they can). Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net wrote: On 11/18/2010 5:14 PM, Lee Riemer wrote: Try tracerouting to 2001:500:4:13::81 (www.arin.net) or 2001:470:0:76::2 (www.he.net) via Cogent. Interesting. I noticed a similar issue with  ipv6.cnn.com today. I dont see it via

Re: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:24 PM, George, Wes E [NTK] wesley.e.geo...@sprint.com wrote: Sprint and Qwest, I know you're guilty. [WES] Bill, I know that you mean well and you're just trying to push IPv6 deployment, and sometimes a little public shame goes a long way, but in the future, before you

RE: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread George Bonser
My point was this: if IPv6 is the next Internet protocol then at some point in the very near future it is a -standard- component of -every- product you're paid for. Not a new feature customers may order. At worst it's like requesting IP addresses - an included component configurable with a

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 11/18/10 3:00 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: That's what I'm hearing. Cogent refuses to peer with HE via IPv6. So cogent IPv6 Customers currently can not hit things at HE. And they can't do anything about it. Besides 6to4 tunneling and BGP peering with HE (or native, If they can). Wait, a

Re: Why is your company treating IPv6 turn ups as a sales matter?

2010-11-18 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 11/18/10 11:12 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: My IPv6 dealings with Sprint have been purely technical from all aspects. If you were to ask about, say, Verizon; well, check the archives for my failed experience. =) Not here. We've been on their tunneled AS6175 network for some time and now

IPv6 6to4 and dns

2010-11-18 Thread Jeroen van Aart
What would be the best way to configure your dns once you've set up IPv6 6to4? Separate the IPv4 and IPV6 domains or let them be the same? That is, use something like example.com for your existing IPv4 address and something like 6.example.com for IPv6 (and www.6.example.com etc.)? Or is it

Re: IPv6 6to4 and dns

2010-11-18 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 4ce5c820.5030...@mompl.net, Jeroen van Aart writes: What would be the best way to configure your dns once you've set up IPv6 6to4? Separate the IPv4 and IPV6 domains or let them be the same? That is, use something like example.com for your existing IPv4 address and something

Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-18 Thread Richard Hartmann
Hi all, as most of you are aware, there is no definite, canonical name for the two bytes of IPv6 addresses between colons. This forces people to use a description like I just did instead of a single, specific term. Being highly pedantic Germans, this annoyed quite a few people within the DENOG

RE: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Ryan Finnesey
TWT is not TWC are two separate companies Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Jon Auer [mailto:j...@tapodi.net] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 5:36 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 Good to know about TWT, and yes, I know that TWT != TWC... Figured it was a good datapoint

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 03:17:43PM -0800, Cameron Byrne wrote: Wow. CNN now has IPv6. That's awesome. I guess i missed the memo. So, major players with IPv6 are? ipv6.cnn.com (just book marked it) ipv6.comcast.net ipv6.google.com (or you can have it all with a white-list)

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-18 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 07:45:19PM -0800, George Bonser wrote: Hi all, as most of you are aware, there is no definite, canonical name for the two bytes of IPv6 addresses between colons. This forces people to use a description like I just did instead of a single, specific term.

Re: IPv6 6to4 and dns

2010-11-18 Thread Mans Nilsson
Subject: IPv6 6to4 and dns Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:43:12PM -0800 Quoting Jeroen van Aart (jer...@mompl.net): What would be the best way to configure your dns once you've set up IPv6 6to4? Separate the IPv4 and IPV6 domains or let them be the same? The same. Separation would be

Re: IPv6 6to4 and dns

2010-11-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: What would be the best way to configure your dns once you've set up IPv6 6to4? Separate the IPv4 and IPV6 domains or let them be the same? That is, use something like example.com for your existing IPv4 address and something like

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-18 Thread Owen DeLong
Since the poll is a straight yes/no option with no preference, I will express my preference here. While I find the term quibble fun and amusing, I think hextet is a far more useful term because it does not have the overloaded human semantics that come with quibble. I'm sorry to quibble with the