On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:45:55 -0700, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
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From: Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org
04:05:41PM + Quoting Dylan Bouterse (dy...@corp.power1.com):
I'm not sure if this is obvious for this list or not, but with your
WiFi
Subject: Re: Big Temporary Networks Date: Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 05:45:55PM -0400
Quoting Jay Ashworth (j...@baylink.com):
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At all possible cost, avoid login or encryption for the wireless.
Yes, and no.
snip
Just keep in mind that every action you make the
Subject: Re: Big Temporary Networks Date: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:20:33AM -0700
Quoting Octavio Alvarez (alvar...@alvarezp.ods.org):
I'd have expected someone to have QoS mentioned already, mainly to put
FTP and P2P traffic on the least important queues and don't hog up the
net.
As long as
To all folks running NOC's at events like CCC/Assembly/DEFCON/etc: hats
off, and enjoy the fun ;)
On 2012-09-14 09:34 , Måns Nilsson wrote:
[..]
A couple hours will get the user over a lunch break if not overnight,
which means that long TCP sessions survive on Proper Computers (that
don't tear
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Get lots of IP addresses. A /16 probably still can be borrowed for
this kind of event. I know RIPE had rules and addresses for this kind of
use a couple years ago, at least.
Indeed? I did not see that coming. Hell, perhaps Interop could be talked
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012, Brandon Ross wrote:
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Get lots of IP addresses. A /16 probably still can be borrowed for
this kind of event. I know RIPE had rules and addresses for this kind of
use a couple years ago, at least.
Indeed? I did not see that coming.
On 13/09/2012 21:32, Måns Nilsson wrote:
Get lots of IP addresses. A /16 probably still can be borrowed for this
kind of event. I know RIPE had rules and addresses for this kind of use
a couple years ago, at least.
yes, you can get a bunch of IP addresses from the ripe ncc if you only need
On 14 September 2012 11:16, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:
On 13/09/2012 21:32, Måns Nilsson wrote:
Get lots of IP addresses. A /16 probably still can be borrowed for this
kind of event. I know RIPE had rules and addresses for this kind of use
a couple years ago, at least.
yes, you can
On 14/09/2012 11:50, Nat Morris wrote:
The RIPE hostmaster would only allocate us address space 7 days before
the event started, needed longer than this to begin building out the
network which span multiple data centres. Especially with time, access
and change freeze constraints due to the
On 14 September 2012 11:54, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:
On 14/09/2012 11:50, Nat Morris wrote:
The RIPE hostmaster would only allocate us address space 7 days before
the event started, needed longer than this to begin building out the
network which span multiple data centres.
* Nick Hilliard
They've allocated a /14 for this purpose, so this would be well more
than enough to cope with most large conferences.
It's actually a /13 (151.216.0.0/13).
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2012, Tore Anderson wrote:
It's actually a /13 (151.216.0.0/13).
It used to be in another place (I don't remember exactly, this was 5-8
years ago). Nice that they have a /13 nowadays anyway, I'd imagine there
are more temporary events nowadays.
I've used it a couple of
On 14/09/2012 12:11, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
I've used it a couple of times and then a week was sufficient (start
rigging on monday, everything done by thursday morning where 5000 people
show up with their computers (this was mainly 10/100 ports, people brought
their own cables), teardown
On Fri, 14 Sep 2012, Nick Hilliard wrote:
Also, 1 week is not suitable for debogonisation.
Could you please elaborate on this aspect? Who would be treating this
space as a bogon, and why?
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On 14/09/2012 12:19, Nick Hilliard wrote:
On 14/09/2012 12:11, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
I've used it a couple of times and then a week was sufficient (start
rigging on monday, everything done by thursday morning where 5000 people
show up with their computers (this was mainly 10/100 ports,
Måns Nilsson wrote:
And get v6.
Do not NAT. When all those people want to do social networking to the same
furry BBS while also frequenting three social app sites simultaneously
you are going to get Issues if you NAT. So don't.
Don't?
Considering that, ten years ago, some computers were
Subject: Re: Big Temporary Networks Date: Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 09:22:01PM +0900
Quoting Masataka Ohta (mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp):
Måns Nilsson wrote:
And get v6.
Do not NAT. When all those people want to do social networking to the same
furry BBS while also frequenting three
- Original Message -
From: Sean Lazar kn...@toaster.net
WLAN in large conferences certainly is a challenge. You basically want
to get as many people on 5GHz as possible due to more available
channels. 2.4GHz becomes quite noisy.
And here you raise an interesting question: do dual
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From: Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org
05:45:55PM -0400 Quoting Jay Ashworth (j...@baylink.com):
- Original Message -
At all possible cost, avoid login or encryption for the wireless.
Yes, and no.
snip
Just keep in mind that every action
- Original Message -
From: Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org
12:20:33AM -0700 Quoting Octavio Alvarez (alvar...@alvarezp.ods.org):
I'd have expected someone to have QoS mentioned already, mainly to put
FTP and P2P traffic on the least important queues and don't hog up the
Once upon a time, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com said:
Well, we'll be on the *sending* end of the Hugo's, but... ;-)
You might want to talk to whoever did this year's WorldCon networking.
I'm a Dragon*Con volunteer, and I know there was a some type of direct
connection between Chicago (WorldCon)
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From: Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net
Once upon a time, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com said:
Well, we'll be on the *sending* end of the Hugo's, but... ;-)
You might want to talk to whoever did this year's WorldCon networking.
I'm a Dragon*Con volunteer, and I
Hello Everyone,
We purchase 10Gig waves for transport out of our datacenter and are trying
to figure out why the taxes on the circuits are so much. We are paying
around 60% additional in taxes and fee's on top of the cost of the circuit.
Ofcourse when we were negotiating pricing , it seemed like
Once upon a time, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com said:
My understanding was that Dragon *took its main feed* for the Hugos via
Ustream, and the entire room got left standing; no?
I don't know; I wasn't in there, and I didn't find out about the Ustream
cut until I was home. I would think I would
Hi list,
in the interest of really running down also the final /8 of RIPE, which
was entered today, let me point out that the cost to setup a new LIR is
a meager application + application fee (2000 EUR) + ~1500 EUR or so for
the first year. You can obviously transfer the resource as long as the
All Communication Circuits are subject to Communication Taxes, as per
Tax laws of that State.
Having said that... if this communication circuit is carrying Internet
Traffic, you can contact the Carrier and Ask them to provide you the
forms so that you can
Claim ITFA / ITNA Exemption ...(if
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From: Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net
Subject: Re: Big Temporary Networks
Once upon a time, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com said:
My understanding was that Dragon *took its main feed* for the Hugos
via Ustream, and the entire room got left standing; no?
I don't
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From: Matthew Barr mb...@snap-interactive.com
and as I was working the Hugo's:
On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
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From: Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net
I know some of that went on, yes, and
Once upon a time, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com said:
Noted. How big is that crew for Dragon; you were, what, 30k attendees?
The estimate I heard was 52,000-55,000 paid attendees this year (plus
another 3,000+ for volunteers, guests+spouse/agent/etc., press, etc.).
Our Techops staff was around
In a message written on Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:53:01AM -0400, Jay Ashworth
wrote:
Yes, and I'm told by my best friend who did attend (I didn't make it
this year) that the hotel wired/wifi was essentially unusable, every
time he tried. Hence my interest in the issue.
I find more and more
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/europe-officially-runs-out-of-ipv4-addresses/
Europe officially runs out of IPv4 addresses
RIPE NCC now allocating IPv4 address space from the last /8 netblock
by Iljitsch van Beijnum - Sep 14, 2012 3:20 pm UTC
Earlier today, the RIPE
I had to deal with this with an upstream once that was taxing me.
Finally got it all worked out after sending in copies of the law and
getting the CEO involved. However a year or two later I started to get
taxed again when the company was bought out. Had to resend copies of the
law (Fed and
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From:
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From: Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org
I find more and more hotel networks are essentially unusable for
parts of the day, conference or no. Of course, bring in any geek
contingent with multiple devices and heavy usage patterns and the
problems get worse.
What I
Typically you have to file once a year with the companies to let them know
you are tax exempt. As your company status may change.
Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com
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Philip,
Here is the best reference I know of to address your issue.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/white_paper_c11_493718.html#wp9000281
From: Philip Lavine [mailto:source_ro...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 6:06 PM
To: David Swafford; Paul
How do we get tax-exempt status though, with ITFA / ITNA Exemption like
faisel said?
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Carlos Alcantar car...@race.com wrote:
Typically you have to file once a year with the companies to let them know
you are tax exempt. As your company status may change.
There is no 'Certification' required for it..
All it requires is a 'declaration'
1st Step Contact the Tax Dept. of your Carrier and ask them for the
ITFA/ITNA exemption form.
You might get a hard time from the Front line.. but get to a Supervisor...
once you have the form, all you need
I believe you don't need to pay FUSC charges if you're not the end-user of
the circuit.
Frank
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From: A. Pishdadi [mailto:apishd...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:30 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: Transport Fee's (Taxes and random telecom fee's)
Hello Everyone,
499 from the fcc for federal as well as any local certs as that is state
to state. Note once you get your 499 you are required to file with them,
and pay the taxes. At the end of it you need to start charging your end
users tax's and filing them.
Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team
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