Re: GMAIL?

2013-04-19 Thread Robert Yoder
On 4/17/13 6:28 AM, Caio Alves wrote: Someone has access problems in GMAIL? Here in Brazil, many complaints about the service. Google made a change so that the user account name must be just MAILBOX, and not MAILBOX@gmail.com. Deleting the domain name fixed my account this morning. ry --

Re: What do people use public suffix for?

2013-04-19 Thread Bjørn Mork
Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com writes: - Original Message - From: John Levine jo...@iecc.com The public suffix list contains points in the DNS where (roughly speaking) names below that point are under different management from each other and from that name. It's here:

Weekly Routing Table Report

2013-04-19 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to

Re: What do people use public suffix for?

2013-04-19 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-04-19, at 14:17, Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no wrote: It is already, isn't it? The NS and SOA records will tell you all there is to know about zone splits and cross zone relations. Not really. In general, just because a zone is served by the same nameservers as another zone doesn't mean

Re: What do people use public suffix for?

2013-04-19 Thread Tony Finch
Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: If the rule was just the nameservers need to be the same and the SOA RDATA needs to be the same, for some well-documented meaning of 'same' then gaming that rule (e.g. for purposes of cookie injection) as a miscreant is unpleasantly straightforward. To

Re: What do people use public suffix for?

2013-04-19 Thread Dave Crocker
On 4/19/2013 12:57 PM, Tony Finch wrote: To reinforce Joe's point, there doesn't even need to be a zone cut for there to be an administrative cut. There are various ISPs and dynamic DNS providers that put all their users in the same zone, and the common suffix of a zone like this should be

The Cidr Report

2013-04-19 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Apr 19 21:13:18 2013 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

BGP Update Report

2013-04-19 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 11-Apr-13 -to- 18-Apr-13 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS47331 72724 3.2% 35.3 -- TTNET TTNet A.S. 2 - AS58113 67954 3.0%

Re: What do people use public suffix for?

2013-04-19 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 4/19/13, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote: On 4/19/2013 12:57 PM, Tony Finch wrote: To reinforce Joe's point, there doesn't even need to be a zone cut for there to be an administrative cut. There are various ISPs and dynamic DNS providers that put all their users in the same zone, and

Re: What do people use public suffix for?

2013-04-19 Thread John Levine
If the DS record identifies a different signer, then you have an administrative split, or if the e-mail address field in the SOA fields of the parent zone are different, then you have an administrative split, OR if one of the two zones has RP (responsible party records), and the list of RP

Re: What do people use public suffix for?

2013-04-19 Thread Dave Crocker
On 4/19/2013 4:33 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: It seems this is more about providing a security function to DNS, to inform the public, about where the responsible parties change. Absent a view that somehow says all metadata is a security function, I don't see how the marking of administrative

Re: What do people use public suffix for?

2013-04-19 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 4/19/13, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote: On 4/19/2013 4:33 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: [snip] Absent a view that somehow says all metadata is a security function, I don't see how the marking of administrative boundaries qualifies as a security function. The security function comes in

Re: What do people use public suffix for?

2013-04-19 Thread Dave Crocker
1. Explicitly marking an administrative boundary is not inherently a 'security' function, although properly authorizing and protecting the marking no doubt would be. 2. Defining a marking mechanism that is built into a security mechanism that is designed for other purposes is overloading

Re: What do people use public suffix for?

2013-04-19 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 4/19/13, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote: That is only theoretically possible, if every boundary keeper participates. In reality, you would wind up with some zones having explicit marking, and most zones not having any marking at all, just because the admin didn't bother to pick up on