Re: It's the end of the world as we know it -- REM

2013-05-01 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On 4/30/2013 10:36 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: On 4/30/13, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: With all due respect, this is a reference in section 8.3 to call out that the policies in section 4 regarding qualification of recipients are to be followed when determining eligibility for an 8.3 transfer.

Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread ISHII, Yuji
Hello folks, Have you ever seen DNS issues on Office 365? MX record of Office 365 is example.mail.eo.outlook.com. I can get the MX record, however, I could not get the A record of the MX record, got Timeout. Does anyone have the same issue? Sincerely, Yuji

Re: Tier1 blackholing policy?

2013-05-01 Thread Thomas Schmid
Joel, Am 30.04.2013 18:00, schrieb joel jaeggli: On 4/30/13 8:23 AM, Thomas Schmid wrote: On 30.04.2013 17:07, Chris Boyd wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:59 -0400, ML wrote: 1) Do nothing - They're supposed deliver any and all bits (Disregarding a DoS or similiar situation which impedes said

Re: It's the end of the world as we know it -- REM

2013-05-01 Thread John Curran
On May 1, 2013, at 3:51 AM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: Now, the actual language that is in the NRPM says The recipient must demonstrate the need for up to a 24-month supply* of IP address resources under current ARIN policies and sign an RSA. ... if someone thinks that

Re: Tier1 blackholing policy?

2013-05-01 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On May 1, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Thomas Schmid wrote: Now since a few weeks we get regular complaints about this. So something has changed. Yes, things have changed. There are reasons that some of the transit ISPs are performing this blocking. They aren't doing it for kicks. For example,

Re: Mitigating DNS amplification attacks

2013-05-01 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: Please provide advice and insights as well as directing customers to the openresolverproject.org website. We want to close these down, if you need an accurate list of IPs in your ASN, please email me and I can give you

Re: Mitigating DNS amplification attacks

2013-05-01 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On May 1, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: The public list of smurf amplifiers turned out to be the only way to really deal with it. It certainly helped; but the real solution was to get Cisco, et. al. to disable directed broadcasts by default.

Re: Tier1 blackholing policy?

2013-05-01 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:47:40PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: If the phishing attack is against an enterprise that is also an ISP, surely you can imagine a case where they might block traffic to prevent folks from being phished. This is not an effective anti-phishing tactic, any more than user

Re: Tier1 blackholing policy?

2013-05-01 Thread Jared Mauch
On May 1, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:47:40PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: If the phishing attack is against an enterprise that is also an ISP, surely you can imagine a case where they might block traffic to prevent folks from being phished.

Re: Tier1 blackholing policy?

2013-05-01 Thread David Miller
On 05/01/2013 05:40 AM, Thomas Schmid wrote: Joel, Am 30.04.2013 18:00, schrieb joel jaeggli: On 4/30/13 8:23 AM, Thomas Schmid wrote: On 30.04.2013 17:07, Chris Boyd wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:59 -0400, ML wrote: 1) Do nothing - They're supposed deliver any and all bits (Disregarding

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-05-01 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-05-01, at 01:23, joseph.sny...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't cable Bahamas sell in andros BaTelCo has five retail stores on Andros too, which suggests they offer some kind of service there (whether wireline or wireless). For a list whose subscribers have generally more experience on the

Re: Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread JoeSox
The company I work for has been having Outlook connectivity issues (intermittent for only a few end users) for the past 7 days for Office 365. We are in an upgrade status (on the 18th days or so; have been told it can last 30 days) and they changed our MX records without formal notification. We

Re: Mitigating DNS amplification attacks

2013-05-01 Thread Alain Hebert
Well, I was going more for a public list of ISP that refuse to BCP38 their networks. But that's just me =D On point: (If your corporation is massive enough) Basically: . Mirror DST Port 53; . Write some software to stats who's spamming the same DST IP with the same

Re: Andros Island Connectivity?

2013-05-01 Thread Jim Mercer
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 09:20:59AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: On 2013-05-01, at 01:23, joseph.sny...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't cable Bahamas sell in andros BaTelCo has five retail stores on Andros too, which suggests they offer some kind of service there (whether wireline or wireless). its

RE: Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I am also having the some issues going on 3 weeks now. I cannot access my e-mail via Outlook and my MX records keep changing. It is nuts support has been unable to help. From: JoeSox Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 9:24 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject:

Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Blair Trosper
Is anyone else seeing this? From Santa Clara, CA, on Comcast Business...I'm getting SERVFAIL for any query I throw at 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4... Level 3's own public resolvers are fine for me, as are OpenDNS's resolvers. Blair

Re: Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread Warren Bailey
Just another day for them.. Office 365 has been broken for us for a long time. I've been thinking about a rackspace hosted exchange instead.. Have you guys looked into alternatives? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: JoeSox joe...@gmail.com Date:

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Harry Hoffman
Works fine from here, Philadelphia, PA .edu and FIOS networks Cheers, Harry On 05/01/2013 12:09 PM, Blair Trosper wrote: Is anyone else seeing this? From Santa Clara, CA, on Comcast Business...I'm getting SERVFAIL for any query I throw at 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4... Level 3's own public

Re: Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread JoeSox
Ryan, Is your Office 365 account also in an upgrade status? If not, have you completed the upgrade? -- Thanks, Joe On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote: I am also having the some issues going on 3 weeks now. I cannot access my e-mail via Outlook and my MX

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-05-01, at 12:09, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else seeing this? From Santa Clara, CA, on Comcast Business...I'm getting SERVFAIL for any query I throw at 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4... Level 3's own public resolvers are fine for me, as are OpenDNS's resolvers.

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Blair Trosper
That's all well and good, but I certainly wouldn't expect nslookup gmail.com or for nslookup google.com to return SERVFAIL On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: On 2013-05-01, at 12:09, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone else seeing this?

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Scott Howard
No issues on Comcast cable in the bay area, either Comcast business or Comcast home. Scott $ nslookup gmail.com 8.8.4.4 Server: 8.8.4.4 Address:8.8.4.4#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: gmail.com Address: 74.125.239.149 Name: gmail.com Address: 74.125.239.150 On

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Casey Deccio
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: That's all well and good, but I certainly wouldn't expect nslookup gmail.com or for nslookup google.com to return SERVFAIL If you set the CD (checking disabled) in the request, a response that would normally be

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Blair Trosper
Goes all the way up to the A root server before failing spectacularly. Europa:~ blair$ dig +cd @8.8.8.8 google.com A ; DiG 9.8.3-P1 +cd @8.8.8.8 google.com A ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 47332 ;; flags: qr rd ra cd;

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Blair Trosper
8.8.4.4 is now replying SERVFAIL whereas 8.8.8.8 is suddenly working fine again... On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.comwrote: Goes all the way up to the A root server before failing spectacularly. Europa:~ blair$ dig +cd @8.8.8.8 google.com A ; DiG

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Andrew Fried
Your IPs may have been rate limited... Andy Andrew Fried andrew.fr...@gmail.com On 5/1/13 12:38 PM, Blair Trosper wrote: That's all well and good, but I certainly wouldn't expect nslookup gmail.com or for nslookup google.com to return SERVFAIL On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Joe Abley

RE: Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread Tony Patti
After our upgrade, we started to see the body of received PLAIN TEXT emails truncated at less than 256 bytes, which frequently truncated emails in the middle of a word, the fix was a setting change. Since being standardized in 1982 with RFC 822, you would think PLAIN TEXT emails would just work

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Tony Finch
Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: Goes all the way up to the A root server before failing spectacularly. That is an extremely weird response. Are you sure your queries are not being intercepted by a middlebox? What happens if you use dig +vc ? Do you get a similar round-trip time

Re: It's the end of the world as we know it -- REM

2013-05-01 Thread Owen DeLong
I believe Jimmy's confusion results primarily as follows: From NRPM 8.3: 8.3. Transfers between Specified Recipients within the ARIN Region In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 numbers resources and ASNs may be transferred according to the following conditions. Conditions on

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca said: Raw output from dig/drill and traceroutes to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 are highly recommended if you need to take this further. Does Google (and OpenDNS for that matter) support any special queries that identify the host/cluster/etc.? Something like

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Jared Mauch
On May 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Tony Finch d...@dotat.at wrote: Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: Goes all the way up to the A root server before failing spectacularly. That is an extremely weird response. Are you sure your queries are not being intercepted by a middlebox? What

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Blair Trosper
Traceroute is getting the right place and 8.8.8.8 is working, though :) On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On May 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Tony Finch d...@dotat.at wrote: Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: Goes all the way up to the A root

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Livingood, Jason
On 5/1/13 2:23 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On May 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Tony Finch d...@dotat.at wrote: Blair Trosper blair.tros...@gmail.com wrote: Goes all the way up to the A root server before failing spectacularly. That is an extremely weird response. Are you sure your

Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Warren Bailey
Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say. //warren

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Joe Hamelin
Graybar. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Harry Hoffman
On the cheap Lowes/Home Depot are awesome, and they're everywhere. On 05/01/2013 03:23 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Christopher Rogers
I'm a huge fan of netig... they bend over backwards for you. -chris Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say. //warren

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Otis L. Surratt, Jr.
-Original Message- From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Data Center Installations Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management,

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread George Herbert
Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a Frys or Home Depot or Lowes. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com wrote: Graybar. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Mike Lyon
Tessco or Hutton. Lil pricey unless you buy in bulk. Good fit for you though since they carry RF and antenna stuff too. -mike Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2013, at 12:45, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Warren Bailey

Re: Comcast Launches IPv6 for Business Customers

2013-05-01 Thread Michael Sinatra
On 04/29/13 15:38, Brzozowski, John wrote: FYI for folks that are interested: http://corporate.comcast.com/comcast-voices/comcast-launches-ipv6-for-business-customers Great news! Strangely, I (a Comcast Business customer at home) have noticed RAs coming across my wire for several months now.

Re: Mitigating DNS amplification attacks

2013-05-01 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/30/2013 05:28 PM, Thomas St-Pierre wrote: The large majority of the servers being used in the attacks are not open resolvers. Just DNS servers that are authoritative for a few domains, and the default config of the dns application does referrals to root for anything else. It sounds like

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Yang Yu
It is very courteous to reply a SERVFAIL for requests being rate limited. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Andrew Fried andrew.fr...@gmail.com wrote: Your IPs may have been rate limited... Andy Andrew Fried andrew.fr...@gmail.com On 5/1/13 12:38 PM, Blair Trosper wrote: That's all well

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Adrian
On Wednesday 01 May 2013 12:23, Warren Bailey wrote: Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog ninja's have to say. Would largely depend on your

RE: Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
We have fixed the problem. I had to complete a clear install of Outlook and remove the credentials that where on the computer in the control panel under credential manager. This may also fix/help with your issue. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Tony Patti

Re: Tier1 blackholing policy?

2013-05-01 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le 01/05/2013 14:46, David Miller a écrit : On 05/01/2013 05:40 AM, Thomas Schmid wrote: Joel, Am 30.04.2013 18:00, schrieb joel jaeggli: On 4/30/13 8:23 AM, Thomas Schmid wrote: On 30.04.2013 17:07, Chris Boyd wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:59 -0400, ML wrote: 1) Do nothing - They're

Per Site QOS policy with Cisco IOS-XE

2013-05-01 Thread Wes Tribble
I have a question for the QOS gurus out there. We are having some problems with packet loss for our smaller MPLS locations. This packet loss is due to the large speed differential on our Hub site(150mb/s) in comparison the the branch office locations(single T-1 to 4.5mb/s

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Yang Yu yang.yu.l...@gmail.com wrote: It is very courteous to reply a SERVFAIL for requests being rate limited. I believe the 'rate-limit' response is actually 'no response' ... though I haven't tested this myself :) On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Andrew

Re: Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Tony Patti t...@swalter.com After our upgrade, we started to see the body of received PLAIN TEXT emails truncated at less than 256 bytes, which frequently truncated emails in the middle of a word, the fix was a setting change. Since being standardized in

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Otis L. Surratt, Jr.
-Original Message- From: Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List [mailto:blake.mailingl...@pfankuch.me] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:18 PM To: Otis L. Surratt, Jr.; Warren Bailey; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Data Center Installations Along this same line of questioning... favorite Velcro? I

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Mike Lyon
For bulk velcro, I found Uline to be fairly cheap. On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Blake Pfankuch - Mailing List [mailto:blake.mailingl...@pfankuch.me] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:18 PM To: Otis L. Surratt,

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Michael Loftis
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: For bulk velcro, I found Uline to be fairly cheap. I have to ask, is this an April fools joke? ULine isn't cheap for anything. Monoprice, $13, around $25 delivered depending on where you're at and how yu ship it, for 5x black

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Mike Lyon
Is hard to beat Monoprice :) But no, I have purchased velcro in bulk from ULine (not the kind for wrapping cable though) and found it to be cheaper and I usually got it the next day for not that much shipping. -Mike On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Michael Loftis mlof...@wgops.com wrote: On

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Mark Gauvin
Zip ties have no reason to be in a dc grr Sent from my iPhone On 2013-05-01, at 6:57 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: Is hard to beat Monoprice :) But no, I have purchased velcro in bulk from ULine (not the kind for wrapping cable though) and found it to be cheaper and I usually

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Warren Bailey
Bring your lacing skills? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Mark Gauvin mgau...@dryden.ca Date: 05/01/2013 5:01 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Zip ties have no

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Jeff Kell
On 5/1/2013 7:57 PM, Mark Gauvin wrote: Zip ties have no reason to be in a dc grr They have their place, but decidedly not in data center racks where **nothing** is permanent/fixed very long :) Jeff

RE: Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread Keith Medcalf
http://email-guru.com/ ? --- () ascii ribbon campaign against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -Original Message- From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2013 10:12 To: JoeSox; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Could not send

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Rob Seastrom
Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com writes: Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations? Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah? For stuff that they carry, Deep Surplus has been acceptable quality and the price is generally right. Others have

Re: Per Site QOS policy with Cisco IOS-XE

2013-05-01 Thread Lee
On 5/1/13, Wes Tribble westrib...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question for the QOS gurus out there. cisco-nsp might be a better place to post your question. But in any case, this option looks right: Another Idea I had was to create a bunch of shaper classes all feeding the same child policy for

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Blake Dunlap
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: Bring your lacing skills Flex cross twist knot flex cross twist flex cross twist knot flex cross twist... -Blake

Re: Google Public DNS Problems?

2013-05-01 Thread shawn wilson
On May 1, 2013 5:09 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Yang Yu yang.yu.l...@gmail.com wrote: It is very courteous to reply a SERVFAIL for requests being rate limited. I believe the 'rate-limit' response is actually 'no response' ...

RE: Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Yes we are just working out our licensing agreement and moving Exchange back in house. From talking with people BPOS (Exchange 2007) was a mess. We were on Office 365 with Exchange 2010 without issue service worked very well. Then they upgraded us to Exchange 2013 and it is just broken we

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Wish there was Frys in the east -Original Message- From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:42 PM To: Joe Hamelin Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Seconded Graybar. If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for

RE: Could not send email to office 365

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
It was in upgrade status for about 15 days. We had to open a separate ticket to fix the upgrade but even after they completed the upgrade I was unable to connect. -Original Message- From: JoeSox [mailto:joe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 12:28 PM To: nanog@nanog.org

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Graybar is great -Original Message- From: Joe Hamelin [mailto:j...@nethead.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:32 PM To: Warren Bailey Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Data Center Installations Graybar. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23

RE: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread shawn wilson
I'm more impressed with MicroCenter than Frys (at least the Frys south if SF). If you need RF I used to order from Davis RF all the time. On May 2, 2013 12:57 AM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote: Wish there was Frys in the east -Original Message- From: George Herbert

Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Never been to MicroCenter Sent from my iPad mini On May 2, 2013, at 1:05 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.commailto:ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more impressed with MicroCenter than Frys (at least the Frys south if SF). If you need RF I used to order from Davis RF all the time. On May 2,