Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-24 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013, Jay Ashworth wrote: Fixing 4 (which is an easy engineering issue) and 5 (which is an operations policy issue that, by and large, most people in that situation understand), *would have had a direct positive effect on Apple's paying customers*. Fixing 4 is something apple

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-24 Thread John Curran
On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: Which is irrelevent to removing a address block on the basis of a RIR recording that the block has been reallocated. A reallocation already goes through a quarantine period though that may get shorter as time goes on. A

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-24 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sep 24, 2013, at 12:45 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Strawman, Randy. Clearly, the Internet is *not* up to the task of 1) updating several dozen million devices 2) on links of various quality, 3) with 650MB to 1.2GB downloads and 4) a client that doesn't understand

minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Nathanael C. Cariaga
Hi, Just wondering if anyone could shed light on my concern. I've been Google-ing about if there is such a standard that sets the minimum IPv6 advertisement on BGP. My concern is that I am running a network that is operating on multiple sites and currently rolling out our IPv6 on the

RE: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Otis L. Surratt, Jr.
-Original Message- From: Nathanael C. Cariaga [mailto:nccari...@stluke.com.ph] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:50 AM To: NANOG Mailing List Subject: minimum IPv6 announcement size Hi, Just wondering if anyone could shed light on my concern. I've been Google-ing about if there

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/24/13 6:47 AM, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. wrote: -Original Message- From: Nathanael C. Cariaga [mailto:nccari...@stluke.com.ph] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:50 AM To: NANOG Mailing List Subject: minimum IPv6 announcement size Hi, Just wondering if anyone could shed light

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net It went well for most users, it seems the 1-5% of people with odd configs are the problem. [ ... ] IOS7 and monitored for it. Not everything will work for everyone, but for the majority of users it was fine. (This from

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Ben
On 24/09/2013 14:49, Nathanael C. Cariaga wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone could shed light on my concern. I've been Google-ing about if there is such a standard that sets the minimum IPv6 advertisement on BGP. You need to work on your google-fu then ...

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-24 Thread Glen Kent
Picked this off www.jaluri.com (network and Cisco blog aggregator): http://routingfreak.wordpress.com/2013/09/23/ios7s-impact-on-networks-worldwide/ The consensus seems to be for providers to install CDN servers, if they arent able to cope up with an occasional OS update traffic. While his

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-24 Thread Ben
On 24/09/2013 17:55, Glen Kent wrote: Picked this off www.jaluri.com (network and Cisco blog aggregator): http://routingfreak.wordpress.com/2013/09/23/ios7s-impact-on-networks-worldwide/ The consensus seems to be for providers to install CDN servers, if they arent able to cope up with an

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-24 Thread Jon Sands
You've been robbed! On 9/24/2013 1:36 PM, Ben wrote: Hang on a minute. That last paragraph in his blog sounds awfully similar to something I posted here the other day ! He says on the 23rd of September : Users are paying service providers to deliver their IP packets. If providers cant

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Randy Bush
I am running a network that is operating on multiple sites and currently rolling out our IPv6 on the perimeter level. Having to get our /48 allocation from our RIR excuse, but which rir handed out a /48 under which policy? randy

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Edward Dore
RIPE will give you a /48 of IPv6 PI http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-552#IPv6_PI_Assignments Edward Dore Freethought Internet On 24 Sep 2013, at 19:00, Randy Bush wrote: I am running a network that is operating on multiple sites and currently rolling out our IPv6 on the perimeter level.

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Owen DeLong
On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: I am running a network that is operating on multiple sites and currently rolling out our IPv6 on the perimeter level. Having to get our /48 allocation from our RIR excuse, but which rir handed out a /48 under which policy?

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Nathanael C. Cariaga nccari...@stluke.com.ph wrote: I've been Google-ing about if there is such a standard that sets the minimum IPv6 advertisement on BGP. My concern is that I am running a network that is operating on multiple sites and currently rolling out

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Bryan Socha
Everyone is following the same policies. a /48 PER SITE.did you request enough addresses from your RIR? Bryan Socha

RE: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Steve Bertrand
-Original Message- From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] Sent: September-24-13 12:19 To: Randy Bush Cc: NANOG Mailing List Subject: Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: I am running a network that is operating

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-24 Thread John Curran
On Sep 24, 2013, at 7:58 AM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote: On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:46 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: Which is irrelevent to removing a address block on the basis of a RIR recording that the block has been reallocated. A reallocation already goes through a

Re: The block message is 521 DNSRBL: Blocked for abuse

2013-09-24 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Frank Bulk frnk...@iname.com wrote: Is there an indication or separate list that shows if they've been recycled? Hi Frank, Looks like they post a remove message when a block is returned to the registry and then an add' when it's reassigned. For example,

liveaction qos configurator

2013-09-24 Thread david peahi
Any comments on live action Cisco qos configurator would be appreciated Regards David

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-24 Thread Ben
On 24/09/2013 18:54, Michael Brown wrote: That is most assuredly a rewrite, it's not just your perception. M. Surprise surprise, that page now appears to Error 404... guess he must watch the list quite closely as it didn't take long for him to react ! ;-) Guess I should be flattered

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Nathanael C. Cariaga
We got our /48 from APNIC.. -nathan On 9/25/2013 2:18 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:00 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: I am running a network that is operating on multiple sites and currently rolling out our IPv6 on the perimeter level. Having to get our /48 allocation

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Nathanael C. Cariaga
Hi All, Thank you for these insights. We'll look into all of these and review again our options on how we can further proceed in our IPv6 deployment. Regards, -nathan On 9/25/2013 2:33 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Nathanael C. Cariaga nccari...@stluke.com.ph

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Nathanael C. Cariaga
Hi, I raised actually this concern during our IP resource application. On a personal note, I think /48 IPv6 allocation is more than enough for our organization to use for at least the next 5-10 years assuming that this can be farmed out to our multiple sites. What makes this complicated for

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/24/13 8:10 PM, Nathanael C. Cariaga wrote: Hi, I raised actually this concern during our IP resource application. On a personal note, I think /48 IPv6 allocation is more than enough for our organization to use for at least the next 5-10 years assuming that this can be farmed out to

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013, Nathanael C. Cariaga wrote: doing multi-homing and having a /48 in each site would be very big waste of IP resources. IPv6 was designed with an expectation of having /48 per geographical site and this is perfectly fine. I have a /48 at home. What is more of a concern

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Nurul Islam
I believe you can get multiple /48 from APNIC. You will not be evaluated under HD ratio but as discrete network (no iBGP running among them). Here it is the policy [http://www.apnic.net/policy/ipv6-address-policy#5.5.2] Regards Roman On 25/09/13 11:42 AM, Nathanael C. Cariaga

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Nathanael C. Cariaga
I'll revisit our application then. Thank you for the info. -nathan On 9/25/2013 12:11 PM, Nurul Islam wrote: I believe you can get multiple /48 from APNIC. You will not be evaluated under HD ratio but as discrete network (no iBGP running among them). Here it is the policy

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size Date: Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 08:00:44AM -1000 Quoting Randy Bush (ra...@psg.com): I am running a network that is operating on multiple sites and currently rolling out our IPv6 on the perimeter level. Having to get our /48 allocation from our RIR

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size Date: Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:10:52AM +0800 Quoting Nathanael C. Cariaga (nccari...@stluke.com.ph): Hi, I raised actually this concern during our IP resource application. On a personal note, I think /48 IPv6 allocation is more than enough for