Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-07-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 01:56:40 AM Leo Bicknell wrote: I'm an outlier in my thinking, but I believe the best world would be where the muni offered L1 fiber, and leased access to it on a non-discrimatory basis. That would necessitate an Active-E solution since L1 would not have things

Re: Netflix To Cogent To World

2014-07-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 01:35:32 AM Owen DeLong wrote: In that case, I would argue that the attempts to freeze Netflix out in a SlowLane extortion scheme are a move by the existing content/ISP conglomerates to do just exactly that, no? For Netflix, I can't say for sure whether it is a

Re: Call for Nominations to ARIN AC and ARIN Board – Reminder

2014-07-31 Thread Randy Bush
i nominate pigasus, she'll fit right in

Re: Owning a name

2014-07-31 Thread Randy Bush
An update, apparently writs of attachment were sent for not only .ir, but also .sy and .kp ccTLDs as well, based on separate cases related to support for terrorism. and they left out IL?

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-07-31 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Date: Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 06:56:40PM -0500 Quoting Leo Bicknell (bickn...@ufp.org): On Jul 30, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: Symmetrical would be tough to do unless you're doing Active- E. I'm an outlier in my thinking,

Greenfield Access Network

2014-07-31 Thread Colton Conor
If a new operator or city is building a greenfield access network from the ground up, what software and hardware is needed in the core network to provide and manage residential and business internet services similar to the likes of ATT, Comcast, and Google Fiber? Television and Telephone services

Re: Greenfield Access Network

2014-07-31 Thread Scott Helms
What is the ideal way to aggregate the 40 10G connections from the uplinks of the chassis? I would guess a 10G switch since 10G ports on a router would be much more expensive? Definitely aggregate into a switch first unless you want to run a Layer 3 switch as your router, which I don't recommend.

Re: Greenfield Access Network

2014-07-31 Thread Colton Conor
Scott, Thanks for the long post. We will use a layer 2 10G aggregation switch then to aggregate the chassis at the core location. Do you have any recommendations on 10G switches? Yes I realize the math is a little backwards as this is all hypothetical at this point. We would provision each ONT

Re: Greenfield Access Network

2014-07-31 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Jul 31, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: Is a firewall needed in the core? No, quite the opposite: https://app.box.com/s/a3oqqlgwe15j8svojvzl How would you build a access network from the ground up if you had the resources and time to do so? I'd hire folks

Re: Greenfield Access Network

2014-07-31 Thread Colton Conor
Roland, I agree with everything you mentioned in your email. No matter how much money and resources you have, if you don't have the talent and people required to get the job done the project will fail. There a many outfits, like Scotts for example, that will handle most all of these issues for an

Re: Netflix To Cogent To World

2014-07-31 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 30, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote: On Thursday, July 31, 2014 01:35:32 AM Owen DeLong wrote: In that case, I would argue that the attempts to freeze Netflix out in a SlowLane extortion scheme are a move by the existing content/ISP conglomerates to do just

Re: EBAY reachability issues

2014-07-31 Thread Mike A
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 02:38:13PM +, Drew Weaver wrote: We've been seeing some issues with getting to Ebay this morning, only a very select few of their GSLB sites in DNS seem to be responding (to us at least)... Connecting to www.ebay.com|66.135.210.181|:80... connected. HTTP

Re: Greenfield Access Network

2014-07-31 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: If a new operator or city is building a greenfield access network from the ground up, Hi Colton, We just had a long discussion in this forum to the effect that if a city builds a greenfield access network, it would be

Re: EBAY reachability issues

2014-07-31 Thread Paul S.
Appears to be loading just fine from here in Sg. On Jul 31, 2014 11:21 PM, Mike A mi...@mikea.ath.cx wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 02:38:13PM +, Drew Weaver wrote: We've been seeing some issues with getting to Ebay this morning, only a very select few of their GSLB sites in DNS seem to

Re: EBAY reachability issues

2014-07-31 Thread Mike A
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 02:23:54AM +0900, Paul S. wrote: Appears to be loading just fine from here in Sg. On Jul 31, 2014 11:21 PM, Mike A mi...@mikea.ath.cx wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 02:38:13PM +, Drew Weaver wrote: We've been seeing some issues with getting to Ebay this

Re: Greenfield Access Network

2014-07-31 Thread Scott Helms
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, Thanks for the long post. We will use a layer 2 10G aggregation switch then to aggregate the chassis at the core location. Do you have any recommendations on 10G switches? Not really, just stick with one

Re: Greenfield Access Network

2014-07-31 Thread Colton Conor
I have read both the Juniper MX and Cisco ASR9K do support this advanced BRAS functionality, what Juniper calls Subscriber Feature Management and what Cisco calls BGN. These software functions run on the router itself, however the are not free or included with the base chassis. To enable these you

Re: Greenfield Access Network

2014-07-31 Thread Scott Helms
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: I have read both the Juniper MX and Cisco ASR9K do support this advanced BRAS functionality, what Juniper calls Subscriber Feature Management and what Cisco calls BGN. These software functions run on the router itself,

Re: Greenfield Access Network

2014-07-31 Thread Colton Conor
Scott, Thank you for your input. What do you recommend for network segmentation? A VLAN per Chassis, a VLAN per service, or a VLAN per customer/port? When you say qinq VLANs are you referring to the CVLAN model? I am really interested to know how the largest providers, like Comcast, ATT, and

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-07-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 02:01:28 PM Måns Nilsson wrote: It is better, both for the customer and the provider. If the provider is able to deliver 1Gbps to every home (either on copper or fibre) with little to no uplink oversubscription (think 44x customer-facing Gig-E ports + 4x 10Gbps

Re: Netflix To Cogent To World

2014-07-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, July 31, 2014 07:10:49 PM Owen DeLong wrote: You are still misinterpreting my statement, or at least it appears that you are. The pleasures of e-mail, and tones they do not convey :-)... I am not saying that Netflix is attempting to “grab”. Yes, that's what I meant - by grab