Re: Templating/automating configuration

2017-06-15 Thread Mike Meredith
On Wed, 14 Jun 2017 21:35:59 +0100, Nick Hilliard may have written: > What do you think the purpose of change control / management is? To provide employment for change managers of course. -- Mike Meredith, University of Portsmouth Chief Systems Engineer, Hostmaster, Security, and Timelord!

Re: Templating/automating configuration

2017-06-15 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Job Snijders wrote: > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 09:35:59PM +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: >> Graham Johnston wrote: >> > Would you be able to provide any further insight into your Don’t #5 – >> > “Don’t agree to change management. Managers are rarely engineers and >> >

Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

2017-06-15 Thread Anne P. Mitchell Esq.
> You make a good point. But I wonder how often spammers are so obvious, and I > wonder if his "leveraging" falls amiss of CAN-SPAM's specific prohibition: > > > (I) harvesting electronic mail addresses of the users of a website, > proprietary service, or other online public forum operated b

Fwd: [lacnog] Call for Presentations – LACNOG 2017

2017-06-15 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
FYI, apologies for duplicates. Forwarded message: From: Tomas Lynch To: lac...@lacnog.org Subject: [lacnog] Call for Presentations – LACNOG 2017 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 08:55:17 -0400 LACNOG, the Latin American and Caribbean Network Operators Group, will be holding its annual conference – LA

Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

2017-06-15 Thread bzs
On June 14, 2017 at 14:22 goe...@sasami.anime.net (Dan Hollis) wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jun 2017, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > Merely deciding not to patronize them may not be sufficient and that's > > why we make that sort of thing just outright illegal rather than hope > > market forces will suff