Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

2017-06-19 Thread Joe Hamelin
If they paid for a booth at beer & gear (i.e.; indirectly bought me a drink), then I'd give them _one_ pass on a targeted email. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474

AT DNS Contact

2017-06-19 Thread Councilman, John via NANOG
Is there anyone on-list who can help me (off list) with AT DNS? I’m looking for some information about caching DNS servers. Thanks. John Councilman Enterprise Architect / Media [ttps://www.akamai.com/us/en/multimedia/images/custom/akamai-logo.png] Cell: +1.770.625.6393 Desk:

Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

2017-06-19 Thread Ge Dupin
exactly it is becoming really painful Ge > Le 16 juin 2017 à 17:06, Alexander Maassen a écrit : > > the discussion about the external spam kinda exceeds the volume of the spam > itself. just my 2 cents. > just block, delete, continue life > > Kind regards, > Alexander

PCIe adapters supporting long distance 10GB fiber?

2017-06-19 Thread chiel
Hello, We are deploying more and more server based routers (based on BSD). We have now come to the point where we need to have 10GB uplinks one these devices and I prefer to plug in a long range 10GB fiber straight into the server without it going first into a router/switch from vendor x. It

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Bench test of the system, with the muxes... sorry for the large pictures :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Luke

RE: mailops https breakage

2017-06-19 Thread Edwin Pers
Fun fact about letsencrypt certs, they expire after a month or so. Looks like the site admin never noticed/cared to update it (since 2016), even though there's a nice little helper program to auto-update them that you can throw in a cronjob (or scheduled task, if you're into IIS) and forget

test - ignore

2017-06-19 Thread i mawsog via NANOG
test - ignore

Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

2017-06-19 Thread Ge Dupin
It looks like there are more spams coming from these discussions than from the original Scams/Spams.. Ge > Le 14 juin 2017 à 14:26, Rodney Joffe a écrit : > > > >> On Jun 13, 2017, at 10:28 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: >> >> But as I said, harvesting

Top 5 BGP issues

2017-06-19 Thread i mawsog via NANOG
Wondering what are the top 5  BGP issues that folks on this list faces ?  Any comments welcome. 

Re: Survey on Internet agreement ecosystem

2017-06-19 Thread Pedro de Botelho Marcos
Dear NANOG community, we would like to share some preliminary results from our survey (circulated two weeks ago) on Internet agreements and to foster further participation. Would you help us by answering a set of objective questions reflecting your views (<10min)? Survey URL:

Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

2017-06-19 Thread i mawsog via NANOG
Agree, this thread has generated more "spam" or noise for all of us collectively.  Some amount of relevant "spam"  has to be tolerated for vendor to continue supporting NANOG. Also relevant "spam" or sales call is a good way to find out about new technologies , that one may not have heard about

Troubleshooting most encountered BGP issues

2017-06-19 Thread i mawsog via NANOG
Trying  to make a  check list  for  troubleshooting  common BGP issues .  The list is as follows.  Configuration issues : 1.  Incorrect MD52.  Incorrect peer ASN, IP  Runtime issues : 1.  Path flap 2.  Path hijack  Would like to grow this  list with appropriate pointers and details.  Or, if

GozNym - Gozi ISFB - Nymaim

2017-06-19 Thread Aaron Gould
Anyone experienced in stopping/blocking/cleaning GozNym - Gozi ISFB - Nymaim ? - Aaron Gould

Re: Google Cloud and IX - Traffic behavior

2017-06-19 Thread Alain Hebert
Hi, Yes Stephen, we're talking the usual like GTT... And no latency wise they're about the same. In the 35ms range. But I still can't figure out the 10 x drop, that level of latency alone cannot be the factor. ( And Gordy... what?!? ) - Alain Hebert

Re: GozNym - Gozi ISFB - Nymaim

2017-06-19 Thread anthony kasza
Have you had a chance to read this blog? https://securityintelligence.com/meet-goznym-the-banking-malware-offspring-of-gozi-isfb-and-nymaim/ -AK On Jun 19, 2017 8:54 AM, "Aaron Gould" wrote: > Anyone experienced in stopping/blocking/cleaning GozNym - Gozi ISFB - > Nymaim > ?

Re: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2017-06-19 Thread Radu-Adrian Feurdean
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017, at 14:17, f...@fhrnet.eu wrote: > I assume it means 60% of all their IPv6 traffic is reaching Google > services, ie GMail or YouTube. Exactly. Or otherwise said, more than 60% of the IPv6 bytes (NOT flow entries) accounted via Sflow (residential) or sampled Netflow (whole

RE: GozNym - Gozi ISFB - Nymaim

2017-06-19 Thread Aaron Gould
I was already reading that… haven’t finished… is there a section in there about cleaning/blocking it ? -Aaron Gould From: anthony kasza [mailto:anthony.ka...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 10:53 AM To: Aaron Gould Cc: North American Network Operators Group

DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Colton Conor
We are building a 40G metro ring using 40-Gigabit Ethernet QSFP+ Transceivers. Specifically, we are using Juniper JNP-QSFP-40G-LR4. This is a QSFP+ Transceiver with a LC duplex head. We only have one pair of single mode dark fibers around the ring. Our distance between nodes around the ring are

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Colton Conor
Thanks for the answers. From the sounds of it, no one knows the real difference between the expansion port, 1310 port, and 1550 port. For real world applications, I would assume the monitor port would be to plug in a handheld meter, and see which channels are coming through that node without

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd imagine they vary based on vendor, so you'd have to check with the specific vendor in terms of absolute technical specifications. A 1310 and 1550 port only allow those channels plus or minus some, manufacturer dependent. An expansion port passes everything not used by that device. Some

RE: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Luke Guillory
My understanding is that ports on the client side would have cut filters for that color, having 1310 and 1550 are nice since you can hang gear you already have off the mux for OOB and so on. I don’t think I have any CWDM with expansion ports to test with. We use the following for simple

[NANOG-announce] Mailman Maintenance - June 19 - 9PM Eastern

2017-06-19 Thread Valerie Wittkop
Hello NANOGers, The mailman servers will be undergoing a second maintenance tonight between 9:00 and 10:00pm Eastern. Mail sent to lists hosted on the NANOG mailman servers will be held during the maintenance window. Regular operations will resume once the maintenance is complete. Sincerely,

RE: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Tony Wicks
I think you will find the "monitor" port is most likely to be used for "lawful" intercept by unnamed government entities. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor Sent: Tuesday, 20 June 2017 8:14 AM To: Faisal Imtiaz

RE: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Luke Guillory
If their 1310 passes them I would have to think you can't use is with other client ports that would fall within the window. Here is a graph showing those 4 for the 40g it seems. http://public-wordpress-kkc.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Graph1.jpg -Original Message-

RE: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Luke Guillory
Pics came in on my side, that's when I figured you were saying 1 40g plus 10s. -Original Message- From: Faisal Imtiaz [mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 2:50 PM To: Luke Guillory Cc: Colton Conor; nanog list Subject: Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics I

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Colton Conor
Mike, Have any suggestion on a meter for CWDM and DWDM that is low cost? On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Verify the wavelengths passed by the 1310 port. Verify the wavelengths > used by his existing 40G optic. Plug the 40G optic into the 1310 port. > >

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Colton Conor
I guess that makes sense. The plus or minus some is the question. FS is claiming their 1310 port support QSFP+, which is 1270, 1290, 1310, and 1330 combined. I understand you can us 1310, but I am still scratching my head as to how they all one minus and two above 1310 to work. Of course they

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Colton Conor
Luke, I agree, I would be talking about getting one with the 1310NM special port for the QSFP+ input that emitts 1270-1330nm light, and then say 4 client ports on different channels than that light range. On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Luke Guillory wrote: > If

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Tony Wicks
The guys at fibrestore will point you in the right direction on all this if you ask them these questions. They are actually very helpful and will assign you a specialist to assist. Original message From: Colton Conor Date: 20/06/17 6:26 AM

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Marian Ďurkovič
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:26:55 -0500, Colton Conor wrote [snip] > Maybe I should just ditch the 40G QSFP+ optics and use all 10G optics, > but the switches I am using have 48 10G SFP+ ports and 6 QSFP+ ports > built in. I know there are 40G breakout cables, but the whole point of > 40G is to

RE: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Luke Guillory
The issue is that once you get above 10g things start to get expensive since you don't have options for straight 40g optics in different colors. At least not what I see, 4x10g like you have or a single 1310 40g with no way that I see to mux them. I guess the only way this might work would be to

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Verify pass-through frequencies for the 1310 (or equivalent) for the passive mux in question. This would only work for a single channel. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From:

RE: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Luke Guillory
And how would he pass his current 40g through that mux? Unless I'm misreading your email which I took as he can use his current setup along with a 40g 1310, though I'm thinking you're saying he can use 1310 40g with colored up 10gs alongside of it. -Original Message- From: Faisal

RE: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Luke Guillory
Faisal, How would he inject his current 4x10 40g into the mux which is currently on a single LC cable? Luke Guillory Network Operations Manager Tel:985.536.1212 Fax:985.536.0300 Email: lguill...@reservetele.com Reserve Telecommunications 100 RTC Dr Reserve, LA 70084

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Answers in-line ... Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Colton Conor" > To: "Mike Hammett" > Cc: "Luke

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Verify the wavelengths passed by the 1310 port. Verify the wavelengths used by his existing 40G optic. Plug the 40G optic into the 1310 port. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message -

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Answers in-line below. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Colton Conor" > To: "nanog list"

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Colton Conor
I guess that is the real question. Besides the client ports that are clearly identified by channel number on Muxes, what channels can the special ports handle? http://www.fs.com/products/43723.html It has 4 special service port options: 1. Expansion Port (Based on what I am seeing, I think this

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Let me try to explain better... All Single Mode Fiber 40g Optics are using 4 cwdm channels ... If you use a cwdm mux/demux with and expansion port and it is only mux/de-muxing 1450 to 1610 (i.e. not using the 1270-1330) you can use the expansion port to connect the 40g Optics If you have a

RE: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Luke Guillory
Gotcha, figured I misread it. Sorry it's Monday. -Original Message- From: Faisal Imtiaz [mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 2:45 PM To: Luke Guillory Cc: Colton Conor; nanog list Subject: Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics Let me try to explain better...

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I tried to send some pictures, but looks like the message got stuck for moderator. Here is a link to pictures what Colton is trying to accomplish (my bench test :) ) https://1drv.ms/a/s!Ar2zoQlxIvI1gdV9tYj96YUDWElu6w Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
>>From the sounds of it, no one knows the real difference between the expansion >>port, 1310 port, and 1550 port Hmm.. not sure how you are reading this... I believe that there is no 'standard' and as such the actual filter on the mux/demux you are using may vary by mfg. I can confirm what

Re: DWDM Mux/Demux using 40G Optics

2017-06-19 Thread Colton Conor
Do you have any idea if fiberstore has one with both a monitor and 1310 wideband port? I would want both. Seeing as how they don't charge extra for an expansion port, but do for other special ports I am thinking of just using the expansion port. On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz

RE: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2017-06-19 Thread Aaron Gould
When you say some percentage is with Google, what do you mean by that ? What do you mean by "with Google" ? - Aaron Gould

RE: IPv6 traffic percentages?

2017-06-19 Thread fhr