Re: IPv6 and forensic requests

2019-02-10 Thread Ca By
You want this to log the bindings through the nat64 https://www.jool.mx/en/usr-flags-global.html#logging-bib Then you cross reference that with the /64 that is assigned to the UE in the CDR When doing lookups of this data, only look at the first 64 bits. That is all that matters and is unique

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Feb/19 15:27, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >   > The general going rate for a 250/100 in Sweden is around 35EUR for the > kind of service where you can then choose any ISP. Typically the > first-mile provider takes the bulk of this money. > > In the cases where the proprty is on STOKAB

Re: [Community bleaching on edge] RTBH no_export

2019-02-10 Thread James Bensley
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 13:55, wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > This “RTBH no_export” thread made me wonder what is the latest view on BGP > community bleaching at the edge (in/out). > > Anyone filtering extended RT communities inbound on NOSes that accept > extended communities by default? Yeah

Re: IPv6 and forensic requests

2019-02-10 Thread Max Tulyev
Hello Jordi, thank you, I will take a look on Jool! Exactly CLAT was the issue. First, I thought to provide a /128 to every mobile, and then do a static 6to4 to certain public IPv4. But it seems mobile need a /64, and it uses a lot of random IPv6 inside assigned /64, several addresses

IPv6 and forensic requests

2019-02-10 Thread Max Tulyev
Hi All, we are implementing IPv6 only infrastructure. For IPv4 access, we using tayga for 6to4 translation and then CGN for NAT. There is a number of ways for Linux based NAT to store information for future forensic requests (i.e. "who was it cracking that website?"). But what about 6to4

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Mark Tinka wrote: Fair point, my mate is on a Stokab-driven network, but EUR35 for 250Mbps is nothing to laugh at. I'm paying double that for 100Mbps in Johannesburg, on GPON. I also have available 250/50 via DOCSIS for approx the same EUR35. Basically access technology

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Feb/19 07:20, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > The FTTH rollout in Sweden has resulted in monopoly and the prices are > high. The prices are high? I'd like to hear more on your thoughts about this. Mark.

Re: IPv6 and forensic requests

2019-02-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG
Do you really mean 6to4 or NAT64? Totally different things ... If that's the case, I will suggest you go for Jool instead of Tayga. Also, if you want the customers are able to use old IPv4 apps and devices, NAT64 is not sufficient, you need also CLAT at the customer premises (so they can run

RE: Last Mile Design

2019-02-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Tony Wicks wrote: Certainly the devil is in the details, in New Zealand the access layer (GPON plus local transport) is largely regulated. Then Retail service providers buy the access component wholesale and add layer3, national backhaul etc. Retail for unlimited 1G/500M

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-10 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On Sun Feb 10, 2019 at 06:41:29PM +1300, Tony Wicks wrote: > in New Zealand the access layer (GPON plus local transport) > is largely regulated. Then Retail service providers buy the > access component wholesale and add layer3, national backhaul > etc. Retail for unlimited 1G/500M internet is

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-10 Thread Baldur Norddahl
Hello There are of course regions where monopoly has created even higher prices. But it should be fair to compare the Skåne region of Sweden directly with the greater Copenhagen area of Denmark, as those are separated by just a bridge. In Denmark the government choose to regulate access to

Re: IPv6 and forensic requests

2019-02-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG
Well, if it is mobile, then definitively you should use /64 for every PDP context, and clearly is NAT64. In this case, you don't need to take care about the CLAT part, just look at the /64 prefix for the logging. Make sure to talk about stateful NAT64 ... otherwise you create lot of

Re: IPv6 and forensic requests

2019-02-10 Thread Max Tulyev
Great, thank you! Did you manage to whitelist APN at Apple so iOS devices can use it too? 10.02.19 20:06, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ пише: Well, if it is mobile, then definitively you should use /64 for every PDP context, and clearly is NAT64. In this case, you don't need to take care about the

Re: IPv6 and forensic requests

2019-02-10 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG
Apple doesn't use CLAT, because apps should support IPv6-only since a couple of year ago. If they don't something "close" to a CLAT is done by RFC8305. If is doing tethering, then the CLAT is done towards the tethered devices. Regards, Jordi -Mensaje original- De: NANOG en

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Feb/19 17:46, Baldur Norddahl wrote:   > > As you get access to the fiber itself, nobody will care what speeds or > even what technology you use on that fiber. This has always been the end-goal: * How many IPTV channels do I get; not how much bandwidth do they require? * How many

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/Feb/19 16:30, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:   > > I also have available 250/50 via DOCSIS for approx the same EUR35. > > Basically access technology (AE/GPON/DOCSIS) doesn't matter a huge > part, it's all about market and competition. In essence, agreed. For the most part, my 100Mbps does