Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Daniel Seagraves
I just got one of these and have not posted in a long time. They must be crawling archives.

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-24 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:34 AM Blake Hudson wrote: > William Herrin wrote on 5/24/2019 1:22 PM: > > If you drop the /24, you break the Internet when my connection to > > CenturyLink is inoperable. > > Not really. The remote networks that drop visibility to your /24 > announcement still have a

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 06:34:25PM +0300, Scott Christopher wrote: > https://marc.info/?l=nanog=1=2 and https://lists.gt.net/nanog/ > mangle email addresses in the headers but do nothing about email addresses > that are quoted / attributed in the body. There is zero, as in 0.0, point in

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Grant Taylor via NANOG
On 5/24/19 4:11 PM, Eric Tykwinski wrote: I guess you don’t get Comcast abuse reports, below is an example: "e7f05f85ba44ad3393e7b086eed202ee b2cca3a3ae3825c36999e12722e83830" , "Ed d95a762f93c99703afe76d25f1679ea4" Those look like they are probably MD5 hashes (I'm guessing) of names. So

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Eric Tykwinski
Rich, Comment’s inline: On May 24, 2019, at 5:58 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 06:34:25PM +0300, Scott Christopher wrote: >> https://marc.info/?l=nanog=1=2 and https://lists.gt.net/nanog/ >> mangle email addresses in the headers but do nothing about email addresses >> that

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-24 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 10:29 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > If networks are going to make unconventional announcements, I'm not > concerned if they suffer because of it. > No, no no. You're not getting it. I'm a customer of Verizon. I'm a customer of CenturyLink. I get a /24 from CenturyLink and

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-24 Thread Blake Hudson
William Herrin wrote on 5/24/2019 1:22 PM:  If you drop the /24, you break the Internet when my connection to CenturyLink is inoperable. Not really. The remote networks that drop visibility to your /24 announcement still have a default route. They just just leave the decision of the best

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Sandra Murphy
So sheer coincidence. Literally. —Sandy > On May 23, 2019, at 7:07 PM, Niels Bakker wrote: > > * sa...@tislabs.com (Sandra Murphy) [Fri 24 May 2019, 00:28 CEST]: >> And it arrived oddly coincident with my visit to the cvent registration >> page. Any others who had that coincidence? > > No,

Re: Google weird routing?

2019-05-24 Thread Quan Zhou
Same thought here, yet I tried to report a wrong GeoIP subnet for my AS multiple times on that form. Never got feedback nor did they made any correction. On 5/24/19 5:27 AM, Patrick Schultz wrote: Seems to be more end-user oriented rather than targeted at netadmins. There's no real contact

Re: Grande Communications Contact

2019-05-24 Thread Conrad Rockenhaus
All- I have a contact and should hopefully be able to resolve the issue. Thank you! Conrad > On May 23, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Conrad Rockenhaus wrote: > > Hello, > > Does anyone have a Grande Communications Contact? > > Thanks, > > Conrad smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
Question: Is the member list with email addresses public?? Otherwise, one has to wonder how they got these addresses? Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law CEO/President, Institute for Social Internet Public Policy GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant Author: Section 6 of the

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Brian Kantor
Anne, the way that such addresses are often harvested is that one of the spammers (or his agent) becomes a member of the list and simply records the addresses of persons posting to the list. They then get spammed. - Brian On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 09:07:28AM -0600, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Scott Christopher
Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: > Question: Is the member list with email addresses public?? Otherwise, > one has to wonder how they got these addresses? https://marc.info/?l=nanog=1=2 and https://lists.gt.net/nanog/ mangle email addresses in the headers but do nothing about email addresses

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Scott Christopher
Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 08:17:31AM -0700, Brian Kantor wrote: > > Anne, the way that such addresses are often harvested is that one of > > the spammers (or his agent) becomes a member of the list and simply > > records the addresses of persons posting to the list. They

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:08 AM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: > Question: Is the member list with email addresses public?? Otherwise, > one has to wonder how they got these addresses? > Everyone who posts does so with an email address that becomes known to everyone who subscribes and

Call for Participation: NIST Workshop on Security for IPv6 Enabled Enterprises - June 13, 2019 @ NCCoE

2019-05-24 Thread Montgomery, Douglas (Fed) via NANOG
NIST NCCoE will host a workshop on Security for IPv6 Enabled Enterprises.  The focus will be to identify and develop plans to address security challenges / barriers to full IPv6 deployment in enterprise settings.     Please see the call for participation below for more details and to register.

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Mike Hammett
Almost always indiscriminately. They probably would be wise to avoid mailing lists of sys admins, network admins, etc., but they don't. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message -

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 08:17:31AM -0700, Brian Kantor wrote: > Anne, the way that such addresses are often harvested is that one of > the spammers (or his agent) becomes a member of the list and simply > records the addresses of persons posting to the list. They then > get spammed. I rather

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread John Peach
On 5/24/19 11:36 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 08:17:31AM -0700, Brian Kantor wrote: Anne, the way that such addresses are often harvested is that one of the spammers (or his agent) becomes a member of the list and simply records the addresses of persons posting to the list.

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-24 Thread Mike Hammett
If networks are going to make unconventional announcements, I'm not concerned if they suffer because of it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Sabri Berisha" To: "Ross

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-24 Thread Sabri Berisha
Hi, They can, but they don't necessarily have to. In the example I mentioned, there was a private peering between them. Well, until very recently. My point being that it's not always black and white, and sometimes deaggregation is necessary for operational purposes. That's not to excuse

Re: Spamming of NANOG list members

2019-05-24 Thread Brian Kantor
An interesting development: my posting to this list a few minutes ago seems to have triggered an autoresponder asking me to confirm the issuance of a support ticket by Liquid Web, whoever they are. - Brian > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 08:17:31AM -0700, Brian Kantor wrote: > > > Anne, the