>
> As long as that IP space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private
> space, as far as the Internet was concerned.
>
The DoD allocation of 11/8 predates the concept of 'private network space'.
11/8 was first assigned to the DoD in RFC 943 in April of 1985. The concept
of IPv4 space for
On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 08:29:51AM -0400,
Jean St-Laurent via NANOG wrote
a message of 38 lines which said:
> Let's see what will slowly appear in shodan.io and shadowserver.org
My favorite (but remember it can be a gigantic honeypot) is the
Ubiquiti router with the name
According to Cloudflares isbgpsafeyet.com, Cogent has been considered
"safe" and is filtering invalids.
But I have found that to be untrue (mostly). It appears that some days
they filter IPv4, sometimes not, and IPv6 invalids are always coming
through. I know it's Cogent, but curious as to
Here's an article that's not paywalled:
https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-government-and-politics-b26ab809d1e9fdb53314f56299399949
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "cosmo"
>
> Wish i was in the room when they turned it on. I hope they make a tiktok
> of the expressions of everyone looking at the first data. [ joke ]
>
That would have been fascinating to see. (The technical bits, maybe not so
much the Tik Tok.)
Some chat threads with industry friends over the years
On 26 Apr 2021, at 11:27 AM, Scott Morizot
mailto:tmori...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:19 AM Bryan Fields
mailto:br...@bryanfields.net>> wrote:
On 3/15/21 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> is it possible that the DoD:
> 1) signed a lRSA (or really just an RSA)
Just
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 6:36 AM Tom Beecher wrote:
> As long as that IP space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private
>> space, as far as the Internet was concerned.
>>
>
> The DoD allocation of 11/8 predates the concept of 'private network space'.
>
> 11/8 was first assigned to the DoD
Dan was a kind person and a selfless contributor to the greater DNS
community. Sad news for sure.
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 2:28 PM George Herbert
wrote:
>
> Reported widely on Twitter by his personal friends, Dan Kaminsky passed
> away yesterday. The DNS community has lost an immense
On 3/15/21 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> is it possible that the DoD:
> 1) signed a lRSA (or really just an RSA)
Just re-read this; I don't think the Federal Government is required to sign
the standard ARIN agreement. I believe they have a different agreement with
ARIN. I did some
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:19 AM Bryan Fields wrote:
> On 3/15/21 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > is it possible that the DoD:
> > 1) signed a lRSA (or really just an RSA)
>
> Just re-read this; I don't think the Federal Government is required to sign
> the standard ARIN agreement. I
On 26 Apr 2021, at 11:17 AM, Bryan Fields
mailto:br...@bryanfields.net>> wrote:
On 3/15/21 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
is it possible that the DoD:
1) signed a lRSA (or really just an RSA)
Just re-read this; I don't think the Federal Government is required to sign
the standard ARIN
Owen,
Well, no. The Internet — meaning the ISPs and customers that comprise it — get
substantial subsidies to this day. But that’s no call for the government to be
obtuse with the purposes of its IP space.
That would be true if “the Internet” was still fully comprised of
American providers and customers. That hasn’t been the case for a
long, long time.
On 26 Apr 2021, at 16:27, Mel Beckman wrote:
Owen,
Well, no. The Internet — meaning the ISPs and customers that
comprise it — get substantial
On 26 Apr 2021, at 12:32 PM, John Curran
mailto:jcur...@arin.net>> wrote:
On 26 Apr 2021, at 11:27 AM, Scott Morizot
mailto:tmori...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:19 AM Bryan Fields
mailto:br...@bryanfields.net>> wrote:
On 3/15/21 4:01 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> is it
> On Apr 24, 2021, at 16:34 , Jason Biel wrote:
>
> The internet that is subsidized by that same Government….
Uh, s/is/was/
There’s really no subsidy any more.
Owen
Hi,
Could someone from Google peering team ping me off-list? We have an open
ticket, and the last response that we got was on Feb 23th.
Regards,
Ahmed
I’d be interested in an objective recap of this thread.
It seems like we could do a Netflix series for networkers about it.
Anyone would like to give it a try to summarize the story back from the 80’s
till today and explain what is at stake here?
Thanks
Jean
From: NANOG On
These network operators are having to deal with really bad days! "At
gunpoint, they ordered technicians at telecom operators to switch off
the internet." A whole other level of 'bad day' than we have to deal with!
"The method of choice is to decouple website addresses from the series
of
Scott, are you saying that employees of Telenor and Ooredoo are “facilitating
violent repression” by following the orders of soldiers holding guns to their
heads?
My understanding of the rules of nano guess that there is to be no “naming and
shaming“. please retract your post.
-mel beckman
>
On 26 Apr 2021, at 9:59 AM, Ca By wrote:
>
> ...
> The fact that certain parties decided on their own that space not present in
> the global routing table was 'fair game' or 'private' doesn't make them
> correct, it simply makes them ill informed.
>
> My reading of this thread is that the
> On Apr 26, 2021, at 3:23 PM, scott wrote:
>
> Telenor and Ooredoo, it's time to do the right thing.
Well, for strongly held religious beliefs, some may be convicted enough to be a
martyr.
For internet connectivity? Likely not.
Andy Ringsmuth
5609 Harding Drive
Lincoln, NE 68521-5831
On 4/26/2021 10:53 AM, Andy Ringsmuth wrote:
On Apr 26, 2021, at 3:23 PM, scott wrote:
Telenor and Ooredoo, it's time to do the right thing.
Well, for strongly held religious beliefs, some may be convicted enough to be a
martyr.
For internet connectivity? Likely not.
Hi Robert, NANOG,
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 09:29:27AM -0400, Robert Blayzor via NANOG wrote:
> According to Cloudflares isbgpsafeyet.com, Cogent has been considered "safe"
> and is filtering invalids.
>
> But I have found that to be untrue (mostly). It appears that some days they
> filter IPv4,
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 12:19 PM John Curran wrote:
> I provide all of the above in the spirit of maximal transparency, but
> there are indeed some practical limits to what can be provided. The
> community should know that there was no special deal – only a clarification
> that the USG sought
Carlos,
It’s true even though the Internet is comprised of more than American providers
and customers. A subsidy is a subsidy. It doesn’t have to go to everyone to “be
true”. :)
-mel
> On Apr 26, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Carlos M. Martinez
> wrote:
>
> That would be true if “the Internet” was
On 4/26/2021 11:27 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:
Scott, are you saying that employees of Telenor and Ooredoo are “facilitating
violent repression” by following the orders of soldiers holding guns to their
heads?
-
No. Not at
anyone seeing roas in 11/8? i am not.
randy
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ra...@psg.com
`gpg --locate-external-keys --auto-key-locate wkd ra...@psg.com`
signatures are back, thanks to dmarc header butchery
On 4/24/21 3:45 PM, William Herrin wrote:
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 8:26 AM Mel Beckman wrote:
This doesn’t sound good, no matter how you slice it. The lack of
transparency with a civilian resource is troubling at a minimum.
You do understand that the addresses in question are not and have
Hi All,
Is there anyone out there from the routing team at Twitter that could get in
touch to look at some sub-optimal routing we're seeing? We've tried the
Peeringdb contacts with no success.
Cheers,
Bob.
(AS38195)
First you say "not at all" and then you say "stop complying". If your
employees stop complying with the orders coming from the angry men
with guns held to said employees' heads, someone's going to get shot -
and it's going to be the telecom employees. That's significantly more
than a financial
On 4/26/2021 5:30 PM, George Metz wrote:
First you say "not at all" and then you say "stop complying". If your
employees stop complying
with the orders coming from the angry men with guns held to said
employees' heads, someone's
going to get shot - and it's going to be the telecom
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