Re: Validating multi-path in production?

2021-11-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/12/21 23:47, Jeff Tantsura wrote: LAG - Micro BFD (RFC7130) provides per constituent livability. Not sure if this has changed, but the last time I looked into it, Micro BFD's for LAG's was only supported and functional on point-to-point Ethernet links. In cases where you are

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/3/21 22:13, Max Tulyev wrote: Implementing IPv6 reduces costs for CGNAT. You will have (twice?) less traffic flow through CGNAT, so cheaper hardware and less IPv4 address space. Isn't it? How to express that in numbers CFO can take to the bank? Mark.

RE: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
With a kicking ass pitch -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: November 26, 2021 5:52 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 and CDN's On 11/3/21 22:13, Max Tulyev wrote: > Implementing IPv6 reduces costs for CGNAT. You will have (twice?) less > traffic flow

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Frank Habicht
On 26/11/2021 13:52, Mark Tinka wrote: On 11/3/21 22:13, Max Tulyev wrote: Implementing IPv6 reduces costs for CGNAT. You will have (twice?) less traffic flow through CGNAT, so cheaper hardware and less IPv4 address space. Isn't it? How to express that in numbers CFO can take to the bank?

Re: SentryPeer: A distributed peer to peer list of bad IP addresses and phone numbers collected via a SIP Honeypot

2021-11-26 Thread Gavin Henry
On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 at 00:53, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > Anecdotally, anyone that's had reason to manually go through logs for port > 5060 SIP for any public facing ipv4 /32 will see the vast amounts of random > "things" out there on the internet trying common extension password combos to >

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Jose Luis Rodriguez
Well … YMMV. We’ve been running v6 for years, and it didn’t really make a dent in spend or boxes or rate of v4 depletion. Big part of the problem in our neck of the woods is millions of v4-only terminals … as well as large customer/gov bids requiring tons of v4 address space. > On Nov 26,

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

2021-11-26 Thread Routing Table Analysis Role Account
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Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Mike Hammett
Care to explain because the alternative seems pretty self-evident. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jose Luis Rodriguez" To: "Jean St-Laurent" Cc: nanog@nanog.org

Re: SentryPeer: A distributed peer to peer list of bad IP addresses and phone numbers collected via a SIP Honeypot

2021-11-26 Thread Max Tulyev
Hi Gavin, I thought to do something similar ;) As I can see in the code, you count somebody as a bad actor just because of one UDP packet is received. It is a bad idea, because it is easy to spoof that packet and make a DoS against some good actor. Right way: you have to simulate a SIP

Latency/Packet Loss on ASR1006

2021-11-26 Thread Colin Legendre
Hi, We have ... ASR1006 that has following cards... 1 x ESP40 1 x SIP40 4 x SPA-1x10GE-L-V2 1 x 6TGE 1 x RP2 We've been having latency and packet loss during peak periods... We notice all is good until we reach 50% utilization on output of... 'show platform hardware qfp active datapath

RE: Latency/Packet Loss on ASR1006

2021-11-26 Thread Tony Wicks
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/routers/asr-1000-series-aggregation-services-routers/200674-Throughput-issues-on-ASR1000-Series-rout.html So many years since I have used an asr1000 but, honestly you have an esp40 in a box with 10x10G interfaces? That’s a very underpowered processor

RE: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
Here are some maths and 1 argument kicking ass pitch for CFO’s that use iphones. Apple tells app devs to use IPv6 as it's 1.4 times faster than IPv4 https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-tells-app-devs-to-use-ipv6-as-its-1-4-times-faster-than-ipv4/ Build around that maybe? Jean From:

RE: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
With that specific line directly from Apple: "And when IPv6 is in use, the median connection setup is 1.4 times faster than IPv4. This is primarily due to reduced NAT usage and improved routing." There it is, Improved routing. Jean From: Jean St-Laurent Sent: November 26, 2021

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Michael Thomas
On 11/26/21 1:44 PM, Jean St-Laurent via NANOG wrote: Here are some maths and 1 argument kicking ass pitch for CFO’s that use iphones. *Apple tells app devs to use IPv6 as it's 1.4 times faster than IPv4*

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Michael Thomas
On 11/26/21 4:39 PM, Jean St-Laurent wrote: But CFOs like monetization. Was that thread about IPv6 or CFO? Amazon's in this case. They are monetizing their lack of v6 support requiring you go through all kinds of expensive hoops instead of doing the obvious and routing v6 packets. Mike

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
AWS has been gradually improving support and adding features. They just announced this service, which might help with adoption: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/11/aws-nat64-dns64-communication-ipv6-ipv4-services/ On Fri., Nov. 26, 2021, 19:28 Michael Thomas, wrote: > > On

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Ca By
On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 6:07 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 11/26/21 1:44 PM, Jean St-Laurent via NANOG wrote: > > Here are some maths and 1 argument kicking ass pitch for CFO’s that use > iphones. > > *Apple tells app devs to use IPv6 as it's 1.4 times faster than IPv4* > > >

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Fred Baker
> On Oct 26, 2021, at 9:11 AM, David Conrad wrote: > > There has been some effort to create a governance model for the root server > system (see > https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rssac-037-15jun18-en.pdf) but I > believe it has gotten bogged down in the question of “what do you

Re: SentryPeer: A distributed peer to peer list of bad IP addresses and phone numbers collected via a SIP Honeypot

2021-11-26 Thread Gavin Henry
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021, 18:59 Max Tulyev, wrote: > Hi Gavin, > Hi Max, > I thought to do something similar ;) > What stopped you creating something? Or did you? Interested :) > As I can see in the code, you count somebody as a bad actor just because > of one UDP packet is received. It is a

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Michael Thomas
On 11/26/21 3:11 PM, Ca By wrote: On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 6:07 PM Michael Thomas wrote: On 11/26/21 1:44 PM, Jean St-Laurent via NANOG wrote: Here are some maths and 1 argument kicking ass pitch for CFO’s that use iphones. *Apple tells app devs to use IPv6 as it's 1.4

Re: Latency/Packet Loss on ASR1006

2021-11-26 Thread Fiona Weber via NANOG
Hi we see similar problems on ASR1006-X with ESP100 and MIP100. At about ~45 Gbit/s of traffic (on ~30k PPPoE Sessions and ~700k CGN sessions) the QFP utilization skyrockets from ~45 % straight to ~95 % :( I don't know if it's the CGN sessions or the traffic/packets causing the load increase,

RE: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
We now have apple and fb saying ipv6 is faster than ipv4. If we can onboard Amazon, Netflix, Google and some others, then it is a done deal that ipv6 is indeed faster than ipv4. Hence, an easy argument to tell your CFO that you need IPv6 for your CDN. Xmas is coming so the budget

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Michael Thomas
On 11/26/21 4:15 PM, Jean St-Laurent wrote: We now have apple and fb saying ipv6 is faster than ipv4. If we can onboard Amazon, Netflix, Google and some others, then it is a done deal that ipv6 is indeed faster than ipv4. Hence, an easy argument to tell your CFO that you need IPv6 for your

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Michael Thomas
On 11/26/21 4:30 PM, Oliver O'Boyle wrote: AWS has been gradually improving support and adding features. They just announced this service, which might help with adoption: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2021/11/aws-nat64-dns64-communication-ipv6-ipv4-services/ That's a start, I

RE: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Jean St-Laurent via NANOG
But CFOs like monetization. Was that thread about IPv6 or CFO? From: Michael Thomas Sent: November 26, 2021 7:37 PM To: Oliver O'Boyle Cc: Jean St-Laurent ; Ca By ; North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: IPv6 and CDN's That's a start, I guess. Before all they had was

Re: IPv6 and CDN's

2021-11-26 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
On Fri., Nov. 26, 2021, 19:41 Michael Thomas, wrote: > > On 11/26/21 4:39 PM, Jean St-Laurent wrote: > > But CFOs like monetization. Was that thread about IPv6 or CFO? > > > Amazon's in this case. They are monetizing their lack of v6 support > requiring you go through all kinds of expensive