Re: Carrier Options in Hong Kong

2021-12-17 Thread JASON BOTHE via NANOG
Colt is a good option if you’re seeking wavelengths. For transit we use a mix of the other carriers, pccw included but we go through the wholesale side and not hkt which is the domestic arm of pccw and they are ridiculously expensive. > On Dec 17, 2021, at 13:13, Eric Dugas via NANOG wrote:

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

2021-12-17 Thread Routing Table Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Gobal IPv4 Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, SAFNOG TZNOG, MENOG, BJNOG, SDNOG, CMNOG, LACNOG and the RIPE Routing WG. Daily listings are sent to

Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing: operator survey

2021-12-17 Thread Adrian Perrig
Dear Nanog, Knowing how challenging it is to apply new technologies to current networks, in a collaboration between ETH, Princeton University, and University of Virginia, we constructed a system that provides security benefits for current Internet users while requiring minimal changes to

Carrier Options in Hong Kong

2021-12-17 Thread nanoguser99 via NANOG
Nanog, Currently my organization uses PCCW which we pay through the nose for and I'm looking to cut them. This was put in place before me. I was informed that PCCW is "the carrier" in Hong Kong but based on my analysis I'm not sure that's the case. My analysis of carriers such as Lumen and

Re: Carrier Options in Hong Kong

2021-12-17 Thread nanoguser99 via NANOG
Looking glass pings from Lumen to my gear behind PCCW = 1ms, immediate handoff. Looking glass pings from Lumen -> Google (216.239.38.120), immediate handoff. Some CDNs\cloud are 30 ms away, like you said Tokyo or Singapore. My main concern is the eyeball networks. Is PCCW the main carrier for

Re: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing: operator survey

2021-12-17 Thread Matt Harris
Matt Harris|Infrastructure Lead 816-256-5446|Direct Looking for help? Helpdesk|Email Support We build customized end-to-end technology solutions powered by NetFire Cloud. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 12:51 PM Adrian Perrig wrote: > Dear Nanog, > > Knowing how challenging it is to apply new

Re: Carrier Options in Hong Kong

2021-12-17 Thread Eric Dugas via NANOG
I am in no way an expert in APAC but all of the IP carriers I have in NA are present in HK: Cogent, Tata, Telia, Zayo. My guess is a good portion of the interconnections with other IP carriers, CDNs and such will be either in Singapore or Tokyo. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 1:56 PM nanoguser99 via

Re: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing: operator survey

2021-12-17 Thread Job Snijders via NANOG
Hi all, On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 at 19:50, Adrian Perrig wrote: > other proposed approaches such as RPKI that only protects a route’s origin > first AS, or BGPsec that requires widespread adoption and significant > infrastructure upgrades. > For both RPKI-based BGP Route Origin Validation and

RE: Carrier Options in Hong Kong

2021-12-17 Thread David Guo via NANOG
Eric, none of the carriers you mention in HK has local connection, other HK ISPs will route to US if they don’t peer with you. Currently we are using NTT and Telstra, which has good connectivity in Asia except mainland China. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Eric Dugas via NANOG Sent: Saturday,

Re: Carrier Options in Hong Kong

2021-12-17 Thread JASON BOTHE via NANOG
PCCW / HKT are the main networks for eyeball HKT ASs feed into AS3491 which is the international arm, PCCW global if you will. > On Dec 17, 2021, at 14:05, nanoguser99 via NANOG wrote: > >  > Looking glass pings from Lumen to my gear behind PCCW = 1ms, immediate > handoff. Looking glass

Re: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing: operator survey

2021-12-17 Thread Randy Bush
the way i think of it is that rpki-based rov is a thousand points of light, each independently having a specified security property. rpki-based bgpsec forms islands of varied sizes, each island having a specified security property (quite different from that of rov). islands

Re: Incrementally deployable secure Internet routing: operator survey

2021-12-17 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Adrian, //Speaking as RTGWG co-chair As commutated to SCION proponents before, a detailed presentation at IETF RTGWG would be a good starting point. Please consider doing so at the upcoming IETF113. The best way is to subscribe to rtgwg mailing list and respond to chairs email request for

Re: Carrier Options in Hong Kong

2021-12-17 Thread Mehmet Akcin
PCCW can be very competitive….. if you can find the right people and have the volume. They are a lot easier to deal with (vs Telstra/NTT) On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 06:09 David Guo via NANOG wrote: > Eric, none of the carriers you mention in HK has local connection, other > HK ISPs will route to