whois.rpki.net

2010-05-13 Thread Randy Bush
ruediger-style pseudo irr route: objects from the rpki testbed are available from whois.rpki.net rmac.psg.com:/Users/randy whois -h whois.rpki.net 98.128.0.0/16 route: 98.128.0.0/16 descr: 98.128.0.0/16-24 origin: AS3130 notify: irr-h...@rpki.net mnt-by:

nyc glass

2010-05-14 Thread Randy Bush
anyone have reccos for fiber from 60 hudson to 454 broadway thanks randy

Re: nyc glass

2010-05-14 Thread Randy Bush
anyone have reccos for fiber from 60 hudson to 454 broadway From a cursory look at POP and GIS data not covered by NDA, I'm not finding any vendors currently built into 454 Broadway. later word from the customer is s/454/434/. g. randy

Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection

2010-05-14 Thread Randy Bush
3) don't tunnel beyond your borders, really just don't tunnels are bad, always. you are understaing your case. randy

looking glass

2010-05-25 Thread Randy Bush
so i went to get a looking glass going, and went to install lg (http://freshmeat.net/projects/lg/) on freebsd 8. it is perl insanity. among other cpan sikness, it wants to build an entire perl implementation of ssh, with 666 other library modules included when there is a perfectly fine ssh

Re: thoughts?

2010-05-27 Thread Randy Bush
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/05/27/internet.crunch.2012/index.html shocking news!

Re: thoughts?

2010-05-27 Thread Randy Bush
I like the personal title: Daniel Karrenberg, IP address expert humility is always touching

Re: Junos Asymmetric Routing

2010-05-30 Thread Randy Bush
your perfectly fine multihop BGP session could break when rerouting occurs. one of the many reasons that there are no perfectly fine multi-hop bgp sessions. randy

Re: Junos Asymmetric Routing

2010-05-30 Thread Randy Bush
your perfectly fine multihop BGP session could break when rerouting occurs. one of the many reasons that there are no perfectly fine multi-hop bgp sessions. Uhm, is there a way around them when building the iBGP mesh? nope

Re: BGP convergence problem

2010-06-08 Thread Randy Bush
The Cisco 7600 and 6500 platforms are getting fairly old and have underpowered cpus these days. the hamsters in them were never well fed, ever. though i have never run one, too yucchhy, i have measured receiving a research feed from one. over ten minutes for a full table while a router takes

Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service

2010-06-12 Thread Randy Bush
My apologies for the confusion over this when you called in; while we had briefed the support team on RESTful WHOIS, we hadn't covered the updated Bulk Whois interface as it is a bit of a specialized item and coming out on the next release of ARIN Online due to its need for API key

Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service

2010-06-12 Thread Randy Bush
You're going to have to get on ARIN Online at least once to generate an key i can probably survive this experience. is there a tee shirt? :) The report can be downloaded directly without logging into ARIN Online using a RESTful HTTP request containing your API key. The URL must look

Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-28 Thread Randy Bush
The question, in my mind, is whether it's reasonable to ask that regional providers reach the same bar as privately owned campus networks. you are comparing LAN to WAN, never a bright idea randy

Re: Broadband initiatives - impact to your network?

2010-06-28 Thread Randy Bush
is geoff's isp business 101 still the canonic reference for what this reporter needs for clue? doing it micro-incrementally on list is a major ton of bleep. randy

Re: ATT BGP - Advertising my network on accident

2010-06-28 Thread Randy Bush
you may find http://archive.psg.com/jsac-deag.pdf of interest randy

Re: Feds disable movie piracy websites in raids

2010-07-01 Thread Randy Bush
The question is because gTLDs operations are in the USA, does it mean that the USA have control over all those domain names? the usg controls the cctlds too. randy

Re: The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-01 Thread Randy Bush
There is a part 2 as well and this is a bug or a feature?

Re: The Economist, cyber war issue

2010-07-02 Thread Randy Bush
Why hasn't Gadi left a comment on the article? who gives a damn? and if he did, i would not see it. and i'm now plonking you. kiddies! randy

Re: Mikrotik OC-3 Connection

2010-07-03 Thread Randy Bush
The 15.0 series is available for the 7200VXR. However, unless I'm missing something, note that the Service Provider version doesn't have OSPFv3 for IPv6. is-is

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-25 Thread Randy Bush
whois. what did I win? IANA can handle very basic assignments, but hasn't the staff for large support or extra services (whois, POC management/validity, routing registry). routing registry not necessarily needed from address registry. and i am sure even the icann/iana could do the combined

Re: Fwd: Re: North Korea conflict with US and South Korea could spark cyber war

2010-07-25 Thread Randy Bush
From: andrew.wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com Continue to call me a troll in public and I'll be seeking legal advice. andrew wallace, i think you are a troll who needs legal advice. probably could also use some other care. randy

Re: Who controlls the Internet?

2010-07-26 Thread Randy Bush
For example when users from Sudan trying to access some web site they will get a *Forbidden Access Error* message. And some messages say: you are forbidden to access this web site because your IP address appears form country black listed due to USA government policy. I would like to

migration tools

2010-08-03 Thread Randy Bush
know any tools, not methods, tools, to o migrate a network from one igp to another (e.g. ospf to is-is), o merge two networks which have common igp but are currently ebgp, o ... think mergers and acquisitions (no i am not gonna do it again:) randy

Re: off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble

2010-08-08 Thread Randy Bush
my memory is that he said doubling every nine months. Mine too. mo's too. i asked. randy

Re: off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble

2010-08-09 Thread Randy Bush
while most of us seem to remember traffic doubling every nine months or a year (and some have memories of that being the meme then) [0], capacity build was massively above that level. think of the compound rate one gets when one substitutes owned wet glass for a few leased stm-1s. to quote a

Re: off-topic: historical query concerning the Internet bubble

2010-08-09 Thread Randy Bush
Distance * bit-rate equals capacity? What happened to the 'traffic' component? traffic is not a component of capacity. capicity is an upper bound on traffic. randy

Re: Chunghwa Telecom Tech Support Reg.

2010-08-12 Thread Randy Bush
Thanks a lot for your immediate reply. I tried calling the number you provided, that does not lead to Chunghwa Telecom in Taiwan. However, it leads to some other organization and they are unable to understand when I speak in English :-( try mandarin randy

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
% of ARIN managed resource covered by standard RSA? % of ARIN managed legacy resource covered by legacy RSA? % of ARIN managed legacy resource not otherwise covered? % of ARIN region entities (A B above) that have offices/relationships with other RIRs that have a

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
How come ARIN has any say at all if A wants to sell and B wants to buy? Trying to fend off the imaginary monopolistic hobgoblin? self-justification for arin's existence, flying people around to lotso meetings, fancy hotels, ... at the rirs, income and control are more important than the health

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
We'll work on generating these numbers to the extent possible for the upcoming meeting; back in April, I noted that we had about 21% of the legacy space (by total IP address count) under an LRSA (6%) or RSA (15%). For now, this is first order estimate for your second and third

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
thanks. but i meant when you report at meeting, on web site, whatever. please report both, not just the one with the larger number. Yes, will do. thanks randy

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
(and to answer Randy - the only control over the administration is based on the policies adopted. Reduce the corpus of applicable policy if that is your desire.) we created careers for junior policiy weenies. arin and other rirs have become well-funded playgrounds for the semi-clued who

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
to make it easiest to understand, i might grind it up into /24 equivalents and present as percentages Type % of all space% of type space% of total holders % of type holders RSA 31% no-RSA LRSA 6% no-LRSA ...

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
John - you do not get it... vadim, i assure you curran gets it. he has been around as long as you and i. the problem is that he has become a fiduciary of an organization which sees its survival and growth as its principal goal, free business class travel for wannabe policy wonks as secondary,

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
Yet most of the bad ideas in the past 15 years have actually come from the IETF (TLA's, no end site multihoming, RA religion), some of which have actually been fixed by the RIR's. no, they were fixed within the ietf. that's my blood you are taking about, and i know where and by whom it was

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
Here I know we have eaten costs of term liability and cancelled contracts more than the dollar figures you have mentioned below to keep the net clean. Sad that it appears you may not be willing to put the money where your mouth is. how noble of you. and how perceptive to equate legitimate

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
If the allocation and reassignment of address space has no policy associated with it, then there's no doubt that most of the registry functions can be automated, and there's no need for the associated policy development process, public policy meetings, travel, conference calls. Quite a bit

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
the fracking rirs, in the name of marla and and lee, actually went to the ietf last month with a proposal to push address policy back to the ietf from the ops. and they just did not get thomas's proposal to move more policy from ietf back to ops. and, to continue the red herring with jc, i

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
one start would be for arin to have the guts not to pay travel expenses of non-employees/contractors. ARIN Suggestion process: https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/index.html If you submit it, I will bring it to the Board for consideration. In fairness, I will tell you that I'll also

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
You seem to be suggesting that ARIN (and presumably the other RIRs) invest more in policing the address space and otherwise regulating the market. How much are you willing to pay for that service? and how would it make the internet any better? randy

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-13 Thread Randy Bush
I'm not sure it would make the internet better then i don't want to pay for it. if you have not noticed, money is tight, and it ain't gonna get better. randy

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
for the embarrassing wannabe example of the month, marla and lee [0] at the last ietf is just such a shining example. at the mic, they state are from the arin ac and board, like it was their day job and they were speaking fo rarin ploicy. and they propose to roll back a decade of progress

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
First, in this thread we are not talking about folks who have not paid ARIN their dues, we are talking about folks who sell addresses despite not being authorized to do so by ARIN - aka abuse/fraud. this is less clear-cut than you seem to think it is. but i suspect we will see it in court

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
A possible stick for ARIN could be that any AS that advertises space for B and any network that uses that rogue AS would not receive resource requests/changes from ARIN. Perhaps too strong of a stick? maybe you should not be searching for a stick.

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
Actually, you've got it backwards. The Legacy RSA provides specific contractual rights which take precedence over present policy or any policy that might be made which would otherwise limit such rights: gosh, i must have completely misread section nine as we say in our family, i smell cows.

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
gosh, i must have completely misread section nine Seeking contractual rights contrary to IETF RFCs 2008 and 2150? legacy space predates those, and they are not contracts. randy

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
gosh, i must have completely misread section nine Seeking contractual rights contrary to IETF RFCs 2008 and 2150? oh, and if you feel that you have those rights by other means than the lrsa, then why is section nine in the lrsa. just remove it. and then maybe more than a few percent of the

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
gosh, i must have completely misread section nine Seeking contractual rights contrary to IETF RFCs 2008 and 2150? oh, and if you feel that you have those rights by other means than the lrsa, then why is section nine in the lrsa. just remove it. Easy to do, you can either: 1) Change the

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
and, may i remind you, that the actual point was On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:20 AM, David Conrad wrote: It has been depressing to watch participants in ARIN (in particular) suggest all will be well if people would just sign away their rights via an LRSA, Actually, you've got it backwards. The

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
oh. was section nine of the lrsa done by the policy process? No so, if we think it should be changed we should go through a process which was not used to put it in place. can you even say level playing field? Section 9 is present in the LRSA because it matches the RSA (so that all address

Re: BCP38 exceptions for RFC1918 space

2010-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
What's the current consensus on exempting private network space from source address validation? Is it recommended? Discouraged? (One argument in favor of exceptions is that it makes PMTUD work if transfer networks use private address space.) and this is a good thing? rfc1918 packets

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
Also, your emphasis above (_that are not currently being utilized_), pointed our we need to clarify that it should include all resources, including those not currently being utilized, i.e. the phrase wasn't intended to exclude *utilized* resources from ARIN will take no action clause.

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
john, the bottom line is, changes you like and can justify to yourself with lots of glib words can be made without process. changes you don't like have to go through the policy gauntlet. randy

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-15 Thread Randy Bush
the bottom line is, changes you like and can justify to yourself with lots of glib words can be made without process. changes you don't like have to go through the policy gauntlet. ... Changes to ARIN's fees, services, and agreements are done after consultation to the ARIN Board, and often

Re: Numbering nameservers and resolvers

2010-08-16 Thread Randy Bush
for authoritatuve servers, i try to have one on a very different backbone on a distant continent. i make deals with friends. there have been just too many failures where servers were in the same facility, or behind the same routing, or on a single backbone. see rfc 2182. for customer- and

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-16 Thread Randy Bush
and, to continue the red herring with jc, i bet you 500 yen that arin paid their travel expenses to go to maastricht nl to do this stupid thing. You lose your bet. then owe you 500Y. paypal? randy

Re: Lightly used IP addresses

2010-08-16 Thread Randy Bush
Kind of interesting to consider how a successful implementation of RPKI might change the rules of this game we all play in. I tried talking about that at ARIN in Toronto, not certain I was clear enough. first, let's remember that the rpki is a distributed database which has a number of

Re: (cisco, or any) acl *reducers* out there?

2010-08-18 Thread Randy Bush
something which can take a couple of hundred basic and extended ACLs and tell you these ten don't work these twenty conflict the remaining x have a sequence and can reduce to this basic x-y set maybe you could go the other direction. as opposed to trying to digest and correct cruft,

Re: (cisco, or any) acl *reducers* out there?

2010-08-18 Thread Randy Bush
one more comment. be careful aggregating filters. the peer may actually announce all those damed frags, especially in massively de-aggregated places such as india, indonesia, ... randy

Re: PacketShader

2010-08-23 Thread Randy Bush
Really, in this day and age, a chassis throughput of 100G is pretty trivial. When you start getting up to the Tbps range on a system using standard components, then I'll be really interested. i suspect that a rule of thumb is that leading edge home appliances are one decimal digit behind

Re: Should routers send redirects by default?

2010-08-25 Thread Randy Bush
A host SHOULD support listening to redirects and MUST have a knob to turn off this listening if implemented. A router MUST have redirects off as default but MUST support a knob turning them on and when sending a redirect it MUST forward the packet that generated the redirect. wfm randy

how damp are your routes

2010-08-25 Thread Randy Bush
a little contest here. what is the largest or most complex (measured in the number of parms) route flap damping confuration in actual use? send yours to me privately, and i will announce the winner in a few days (with their consent), and maybe show the config (with their consent). thanks for

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-27 Thread Randy Bush
Just out of curiosity, at what point will we as operators rise up against the ivory tower protocol designers at the IETF and demand that they add a mechanism to not bring down the entire BGP session because of a single malformed attribute? there is a problem underlying this. bgp is not tlv.

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-27 Thread Randy Bush
So much for better left off public mailing lists ! sigh ! damn! security through obscurity busted again. will people never learn? /sarcasm? randy

Re: Idea's for donating/recycling server hardware [Off-Topic]

2010-08-27 Thread Randy Bush
http://nsrc.org/ will clean up and ship to the academics and ngos in the significantly less spoiled and privileged countries. randy

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-28 Thread Randy Bush
imiho, researchers injecting data into the control plane are responsible to have tested it at least against major bgp speakers. and, considering its placement in the net (big core), i consider ios xr to be a major speaker. i suspect that these folk will test better next time. i sure hope so.

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-28 Thread Randy Bush
i suspect that these folk will test better next time. i sure hope so. Not sure the researcher can afford to buy a ios xr and may not have access to one ! then ask on *nog for someone against whom they can test. randy

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-28 Thread Randy Bush
i suspect that these folk will test better next time. i sure hope so. Not sure the researcher can afford to buy a ios xr and may not have access to one ! Also testing is hard so is cleaning up the mess when you screw up enough of the internet to make the international press. Maybe we as

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-28 Thread Randy Bush
I am really surprised by these attitudes. Guys (and gals), these incidents simply go to reinforce that the software we depend on, has not received sufficient testing and that we all have gigantic exposures due to things outside of our direct control nice anti-vendor rant. but over the last

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-28 Thread Randy Bush
To carry out such experiments responsibly, you have to conduct so much testing beforehand that the live test on the actual Internet will not yield new insights (assuming you did your pre-experiment testing properly). you seem to assume the purpose of the test was to see if routers crashed. i

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-29 Thread Randy Bush
This was *silent* error/corruption. I'm not sure I prefer to have silent problems instead of tearing down the session which is definitely noticable. i call the silent fix do-gooder software. it means to do good. when it works, nobody notices or says thanks. when it fails, there is hell to

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-29 Thread Randy Bush
Every BGP message header has a portion that starts with 16 all-bits-1 octets, for compatibility. This is distinctive enough an implementation can guess where the next message starts. i desperately feared reading this. i do not want to bet the internet on guessing where anythings starts.

quagga ospfd scaling

2010-09-01 Thread Randy Bush
anyone happily running a quagga ospfd which has O(100) or more peers? randy

Re: largest OSPF core

2010-09-02 Thread Randy Bush
The stability of the topology plays a most prominent role, but it wouldn't surprise me if a OSPF network largely comprised of router LSAs (no redistribution), using today's hardware, could easily scale to 1000 nodes in an area. i believe the original poster asked about actual operating

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-03 Thread Randy Bush
FWIW, I had it happen at a local library. Used their webform to send a message mentioning that blocking 25 was good, but blocking 587 and 465 was bad. It took several days but they did fix it. that was the condition at narita red carpet a few years back. had to pull a chain at ugs in

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-06 Thread Randy Bush
The theory behind closing open relays, blocking port 25, etc., seems to be: (a) That will make it harder on spammers, and that will reduce spam -- some of the spammers will find other other ways to inject spam, but some will just stop, OR (b) Eventually, we'll find technical solutions to

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-06 Thread Randy Bush
No. It'd just increase a LOT, astronomically. i suspect that, if we opened smtp relays again, unblocked 25 for consumer chokeband, etc., total spam received would likely increase a bit.  but my guess, and i mean guess, is that the limiting parameter could well be how many bots the perps can

Re: ISP port blocking practice

2010-09-07 Thread Randy Bush
i keep hearing that, but am having a hard time finding supporting data. Might see the stats from http://cbl.abuseat.org - by AS. Then compare the stats on a non port 25 filtered network (they have stats by AS) to stats on a network that is filtered on port 25 The networks that are

Re: Looking Glass

2010-09-07 Thread Randy Bush
I have a linux (ubuntu) box and I would like to install a BGP looking glass. Are there any out there for free and how can one go about it? Is linux the best OS to use? i gave up. all but one required telnet access to the router(s). and the one that did ssh did so by including half of the

caribbean cable ip contact

2010-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
if a clued engineer at caribbean cable happens to read this message, i would be thankful if they contacted me privately. thank you. randy -- From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com Subject: very strange internet behavior To: customersupp...@caribcable.com Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 04:14:08 -0400

Re: Nevis Internet

2010-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
Very interesting Randy, this sounds like what we endure on a regular basis in the eastern CaribbeanI too would like to know why myself since I have always wondered whether our local networks are set up. well, here is the netalyzer report from caribbean cable on north nevis at a good time

Re: Randy in Nevis

2010-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/summary/id=43ca253f-6714-b0f7e7b0-d08e-4729-b491#BufferResult wow! lime's buffering and 587 hacking make me like caribbean cable more and more. randy

Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?

2010-09-19 Thread Randy Bush
bleeping $whatever folk. qos is about whose packets to drop. who here is paid to drop packets? if this was $customer-list, i could understand wanting to drop some packets on the link you were too cheap to provision reasonably (which is pretty st00pid in today's pricing environment). but this

Re: Odd BGP AS Path

2010-09-22 Thread Randy Bush
please support draft-wkumari-deprecate-as-sets-00.txt I just noticed that then - looking through idr list archives. I'll give it a read.. What is the best way to support, just email the list? i am not sure, as truth be told, i do not follow idr. a fair but not sure inference from its name

Re: Odd BGP AS Path

2010-09-22 Thread Randy Bush
Probably a silly question, but can anyone explain to me this: 3561 3356 9031 {35821,35821,35821,35821} i please support draft-wkumari-deprecate-as-sets-00.txt Mere deprecation does not stop propagation of such paths. over time, routers will no longer generate or accept in the meantime, i

Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?

2010-09-23 Thread Randy Bush
fb is looking good from nevis. dunno about st kitts. randy

Re: BGP next-hop

2010-09-30 Thread Randy Bush
i was recently bitten by a cousin of this research router getting an ebgp multi-hop full feed from 147.28.0.1 (address is relevant) it is on a lan with a default gateway 42.666.77.11 (address not relevant), so it has ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 42.666.77.11 massive flapping results. it

Re: BGP next-hop

2010-09-30 Thread Randy Bush
last time severall years ago on cisco I used a route-map to rewrite the next-hop. route-map xx-in permit 10 set ip next-hop 42.666.77.11 route-map xx-out permit 10 set ip next-hop x.x.x.x neighbor 147.28.0.1 remote-as yyy neighbor 147.28.0.1 ebgp-multihop 8 neighbor

Re: BGP next-hop

2010-09-30 Thread Randy Bush
it seems it gets the bgp route for 147.28.0.0/16 and then can not resolve the next hop.  it would not recurse to the default exit. of course it was solved by    ip route 147.28.0.0  255.255.0.0  42.666.77.11 but i do not really understand in my heart why i needed to do this. Neither do I,

Re: [ncc-services-wg] RPKI Resource Certification: building features

2010-10-03 Thread Randy Bush
Do you think there is value in creating a system like this? yes. though, given issues of errors and deliberate falsifications, i am not entirely comfortable with the whois/bgp combo being considered formally authoritative. but we have to do something. Are there any glaring holes that I

Re: [ncc-services-wg] RPKI Resource Certification: building features

2010-10-04 Thread Randy Bush
1) We have not implemented support for this yet. We plan to go live with the fully hosted version first and extend it with support for non-hosted systems around Q2/Q3 2011. this is a significant slip from the 1q11 we were told in prague. care to explain. Randy Bush who is cc-ed may be able

Re: A New TransAtlantic Cable System

2010-10-04 Thread Randy Bush
With regards to the Wired Article, I still have my copy of that issue and would consider that article perhaps my favorite magazine article of all time. i too thought that a great article and often point folk to it. sadly, the copy on the wired web site does not have the figures :( randy

Re: [Nanog-futures] Memberships, Bylaws and other election matters

2010-10-04 Thread Randy Bush
personally, i am not strongly against it, but am sceptical. it may get a cash infusion now, but what will it do to income down the road when folk don't need to renew? [0] Furthermore, your opposition will surely depress demand even more, because now folks are saying why would I pay for a

Re: [Nanog-futures] Memberships, Bylaws and other election matters

2010-10-04 Thread Randy Bush
Short term cash supply is important; we have a decent lag between now and NANOG 52 where there will be a significant outflow of cash for salaries, hotel contracts, etc. without any meeting revenue. yes, the published data do show that plan. and i guess it is not outrageous. a choice between

Re: [ncc-services-wg] RPKI Resource Certification: building features

2010-10-05 Thread Randy Bush
alex, i am not gonna argue with you. 96% of your users will be happy for you to do everything for them, despite the fact that the wrong holder has the keys (and, as john says, the liability). but 96% of your address space, i.e. the large holders, will want to hold their own keys and talk

Re: Scam telemarketers spoofing our NOC phone number for callerid

2010-10-06 Thread Randy Bush
not directly related, but i get occasional harrassing calls from mental/emotional children who are using whois. it's amusing but basically pathetic. randy

Re: Scam telemarketers spoofing our NOC phone number for callerid

2010-10-06 Thread Randy Bush
We get people calling our noc numbers pretty often trying to report abuse for other people's networks... that is always fun not directly related, but i get occasional harrassing calls from mental/emotional children who are using whois. it's amusing but basically pathetic. no, i mean

Re: AS22558 - Routing apparently hijacked space

2010-10-12 Thread Randy Bush
I can't take credit for finding this one. plonk

Re: Choice of network space when numbering interfaces with IPv6

2010-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-6man-prefixlen-p2p-00.txt

isoc moves to hollywood

2010-10-16 Thread Randy Bush
isoc has made some movies trying to explain to normal humans what the fate of internet access might become. http://www.isoc.org/tools/blogs/scenarios/ imiho, message quality varies. but in general i like what they are trying to do. randy

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