Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-09 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 09/04/2015 21:54, Christopher Morrow wrote:
 the math on their page is 'interesting'...

it's a t2 chipset.  should be all forwarded at asic level, i.e. at line
rate per port.

Nick




Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-09 Thread Bryan Tong
Fairly certain thats a typo and supposed to be 960M pps :)

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:

  http://whiteboxswitch.com/products/edge-core-as5610-52x

 the math on their page is 'interesting'...

 1.28tbps throughput (which is .08 or so tbps better than 64 10g ports
 equivalent)
 960mbps forwarding

 err... so for just plain switching line-rate 64 10gbps ports. For
 forwarding traffic (being a router) ~1gbps.

 ouch, don't route.




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Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-09 Thread Colton Conor
So are we expecting these new switches to be the same price or cheaper than
the current 40G uplinks models? Do you think the vendors will heavily
discount the switches with 10G user port and 40G uplinks?

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Phil Bedard bedard.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 Everyone.  These should also support 25/50G Ethernet.

 Phil
 --
 From: Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com
 Sent: ‎4/‎8/‎2015 10:01 PM
 To: Furst, John-Nicholas jofu...@akamai.com
 Cc: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

 From which vendors?

 On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Furst, John-Nicholas jofu...@akamai.com
 wrote:

  If you can wait, you will see the market flooded with 32x100G with the
  ability to down-clock to 40g / breakout to 4x10g in the Q3/Q4 timeframe
 ;)
 
 
  John-Nicholas Furst
  Hardware Engineer
 
 
  Office: +1.617.274.7212
  Akamai Technologies
  150 Broadway
  Cambridge, MA 02142
 
 
 
 
  On 4/8/15, 3:37 PM, Hockett, Roy roy...@umich.edu wrote:
 
  I did see these switches at SC14.
  
  http://www.corsa.com/products/dp6440/
  
  Thanks,
  -Roy Hockett
  
  Network Architect,
  ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers
  University of Michigan
  Tel: (734) 763-7325
  Fax: (734) 615-1727
  email: roy...@umich.edu
  
  On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Piotr piotr.1...@interia.pl wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone
 switch,
  1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a
 module.
  
   regards,
   Peter
  
 
 



Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-09 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 09/04/2015 13:30, Colton Conor wrote:
 So are we expecting these new switches to be the same price or cheaper than
 the current 40G uplinks models? Do you think the vendors will heavily
 discount the switches with 10G user port and 40G uplinks?

like this?

http://whiteboxswitch.com/products/edge-core-as5610-52x

BCOM trident 2 chipset - 48x10G + 4x40G, $5095 for one-off purchases.

Nick



Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-09 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:

 http://whiteboxswitch.com/products/edge-core-as5610-52x

the math on their page is 'interesting'...

1.28tbps throughput (which is .08 or so tbps better than 64 10g ports
equivalent)
960mbps forwarding

err... so for just plain switching line-rate 64 10gbps ports. For
forwarding traffic (being a router) ~1gbps.

ouch, don't route.


Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Randy Carpenter

The Juniper QFX10002-36Q has 36 40GbE Ports. They can be broken out to up to 
144 10GbE ports, or 1/3 of them can be used for 100GbE.

So, if you use 6 100GbE ports and still have 72 10GbE ports. 

I have not seen one of these yet in person, but it is the smallest form factor 
I know of that has that sort of capacity, particularly on the 100GbE.

thanks,
-Randy


- On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Piotr piotr.1...@interia.pl wrote:

 Hi,
 
 There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch,
 1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
 regards,
 Peter


Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Hockett, Roy
I did see these switches at SC14.

http://www.corsa.com/products/dp6440/

Thanks,
-Roy Hockett

Network Architect,
ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers
University of Michigan
Tel: (734) 763-7325
Fax: (734) 615-1727
email: roy...@umich.edu

On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Piotr piotr.1...@interia.pl wrote:

 Hi,
 
 There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch, 1/2U, 
 ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
 regards,
 Peter



Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Hello Piotr,

You can always take a look at :

- Arista :

http://www.arista.com/en/products/7280e-series

- Brocade :

http://www.brocade.com/products/all/switches/product-details/vdx-6940-switch/index.page

HTH.

BR.



 Le 8 avr. 2015 à 21:01, Piotr piotr.1...@interia.pl a écrit :
 
 Hi,
 
 There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch, 1/2U, 
 ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
 regards,
 Peter


Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Colton Conor
When will Tomahawk switches be available?

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Marian Ďurkovič m...@bts.sk wrote:

 Wait for switches with BCM Tomahawk ASICs.

 They'll support exactly what you're looking for.

M.


 On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:01:59 +0200, Piotr wrote
  Hi,
 
  There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch,
   1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
  regards,
  Peter




Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Marian Ďurkovič
Wait for switches with BCM Tomahawk ASICs.

They'll support exactly what you're looking for.

   M.


On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:01:59 +0200, Piotr wrote
 Hi,
 
 There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch,
  1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
 regards,
 Peter



Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Watson, Bob
If referring to cavium xpa's hitting the oem's lines,  next year or so I'm 
guessing.  

Bob Watson 


 On Apr 8, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From which vendors?
 
 On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Furst, John-Nicholas jofu...@akamai.com
 wrote:
 
 If you can wait, you will see the market flooded with 32x100G with the
 ability to down-clock to 40g / breakout to 4x10g in the Q3/Q4 timeframe ;)
 
 
 John-Nicholas Furst
 Hardware Engineer
 
 
 Office: +1.617.274.7212
 Akamai Technologies
 150 Broadway
 Cambridge, MA 02142
 
 
 
 
 On 4/8/15, 3:37 PM, Hockett, Roy roy...@umich.edu wrote:
 
 I did see these switches at SC14.
 
 http://www.corsa.com/products/dp6440/
 
 Thanks,
 -Roy Hockett
 
 Network Architect,
 ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers
 University of Michigan
 Tel: (734) 763-7325
 Fax: (734) 615-1727
 email: roy...@umich.edu
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Piotr piotr.1...@interia.pl wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch,
 1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
 regards,
 Peter
 
 


RE: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Phil Bedard
I think Brocade has one already announced.  It might be based off the Trident2+ 
though, I can't remember.  Either way, in 6 months everyone will have 1RU 
switches with 100G uplinks like they have 40G now. 

Phil

-Original Message-
From: Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎4/‎8/‎2015 9:58 PM
To: Marian Ďurkovič m...@bts.sk
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

When will Tomahawk switches be available?

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Marian Ďurkovič m...@bts.sk wrote:

 Wait for switches with BCM Tomahawk ASICs.

 They'll support exactly what you're looking for.

M.


 On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 21:01:59 +0200, Piotr wrote
  Hi,
 
  There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch,
   1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
  regards,
  Peter




Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Colton Conor
From which vendors?

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Furst, John-Nicholas jofu...@akamai.com
wrote:

 If you can wait, you will see the market flooded with 32x100G with the
 ability to down-clock to 40g / breakout to 4x10g in the Q3/Q4 timeframe ;)


 John-Nicholas Furst
 Hardware Engineer


 Office: +1.617.274.7212
 Akamai Technologies
 150 Broadway
 Cambridge, MA 02142




 On 4/8/15, 3:37 PM, Hockett, Roy roy...@umich.edu wrote:

 I did see these switches at SC14.
 
 http://www.corsa.com/products/dp6440/
 
 Thanks,
 -Roy Hockett
 
 Network Architect,
 ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers
 University of Michigan
 Tel: (734) 763-7325
 Fax: (734) 615-1727
 email: roy...@umich.edu
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Piotr piotr.1...@interia.pl wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch,
 1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
  regards,
  Peter
 




RE: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Phil Bedard
Everyone.  These should also support 25/50G Ethernet. 

Phil

-Original Message-
From: Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎4/‎8/‎2015 10:01 PM
To: Furst, John-Nicholas jofu...@akamai.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

From which vendors?

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Furst, John-Nicholas jofu...@akamai.com
wrote:

 If you can wait, you will see the market flooded with 32x100G with the
 ability to down-clock to 40g / breakout to 4x10g in the Q3/Q4 timeframe ;)


 John-Nicholas Furst
 Hardware Engineer


 Office: +1.617.274.7212
 Akamai Technologies
 150 Broadway
 Cambridge, MA 02142




 On 4/8/15, 3:37 PM, Hockett, Roy roy...@umich.edu wrote:

 I did see these switches at SC14.
 
 http://www.corsa.com/products/dp6440/
 
 Thanks,
 -Roy Hockett
 
 Network Architect,
 ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers
 University of Michigan
 Tel: (734) 763-7325
 Fax: (734) 615-1727
 email: roy...@umich.edu
 
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Piotr piotr.1...@interia.pl wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch,
 1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
  regards,
  Peter
 




RE: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Klimakhin, Kirill
That is correct, I didn’t mean that it supports all three. Only one of the 
three combinations.

Regards,
Kirill


-Original Message-
From: Randy Carpenter [mailto:rcar...@network1.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:23 PM
To: Klimakhin, Kirill
Cc: Piotr; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

7700 2 slot looks to only support 1 line card, so 48x10 *or* 12x100


thanks,
-Randy


- On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Klimakhin, Kirill 
kirill.klimak...@corebts.com wrote:

 Cisco Nexus 7700 2 slot chassis supports 48 x 10 Gbps, 24 x 40 Gbps,
 and 12 x
 100 Gbps.

 It is 3RU. Part number is N77-C7702.



 -Original Message-
 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Piotr
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 3:02 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: 100Gb/s TOR switch

 Hi,

 There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone
 switch, 1/2U, ca
 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.

 regards,
 Peter

 
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RE: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Klimakhin, Kirill
Cisco Nexus 7700 2 slot chassis supports 48 x 10 Gbps, 24 x 40 Gbps, and 12 x 
100 Gbps.

It is 3RU. Part number is N77-C7702.



-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Piotr
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 3:02 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: 100Gb/s TOR switch

Hi,

There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch, 1/2U, 
ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.

regards,
Peter


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Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Furst, John-Nicholas
If you can wait, you will see the market flooded with 32x100G with the
ability to down-clock to 40g / breakout to 4x10g in the Q3/Q4 timeframe ;)


John-Nicholas Furst
Hardware Engineer


Office: +1.617.274.7212
Akamai Technologies
150 Broadway
Cambridge, MA 02142




On 4/8/15, 3:37 PM, Hockett, Roy roy...@umich.edu wrote:

I did see these switches at SC14.

http://www.corsa.com/products/dp6440/

Thanks,
-Roy Hockett

Network Architect,
ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers
University of Michigan
Tel: (734) 763-7325
Fax: (734) 615-1727
email: roy...@umich.edu

On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Piotr piotr.1...@interia.pl wrote:

 Hi,
 
 There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch,
1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
 regards,
 Peter




Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Randy Carpenter

25/50/100 stuff should start coming out around soon, as well, which may drive 
pricing down even more.

thanks,
-Randy



- On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Furst, John-Nicholas jofu...@akamai.com wrote:

 If you can wait, you will see the market flooded with 32x100G with the
 ability to down-clock to 40g / breakout to 4x10g in the Q3/Q4 timeframe ;)
 
 
 John-Nicholas Furst
 Hardware Engineer
 
 
 Office: +1.617.274.7212
 Akamai Technologies
 150 Broadway
 Cambridge, MA 02142
 
 
 
 
 On 4/8/15, 3:37 PM, Hockett, Roy roy...@umich.edu wrote:
 
I did see these switches at SC14.

http://www.corsa.com/products/dp6440/

Thanks,
-Roy Hockett

Network Architect,
ITS Communications Systems and Data Centers
University of Michigan
Tel: (734) 763-7325
Fax: (734) 615-1727
email: roy...@umich.edu

On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Piotr piotr.1...@interia.pl wrote:

 Hi,
 
 There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch,
1/2U, ca 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
 regards,
 Peter


Re: 100Gb/s TOR switch

2015-04-08 Thread Randy Carpenter
7700 2 slot looks to only support 1 line card, so 48x10 *or* 12x100


thanks,
-Randy


- On Apr 8, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Klimakhin, Kirill 
kirill.klimak...@corebts.com wrote:

 Cisco Nexus 7700 2 slot chassis supports 48 x 10 Gbps, 24 x 40 Gbps, and 12 x
 100 Gbps.
 
 It is 3RU. Part number is N77-C7702.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Piotr
 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 3:02 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: 100Gb/s TOR switch
 
 Hi,
 
 There is something like this on market ? Looking for standalone switch, 1/2U, 
 ca
 40 ports 10Gb/s and about 4 ports 100Gb/s fixed or as a module.
 
 regards,
 Peter
 
 
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