Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-11-02 Thread Adam Rothschild
I have no horse in this race, however one need only look at the NYIIX outages list to see how well the Brocade/Extreme SLX platform works on at-scale service provider networks... On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 2:55 PM Blake Hudson wrote: > > > Chris Welti wrote on 11/1/2018 10:03 AM: > > Nicolas Fevrier

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-11-01 Thread Blake Hudson
Chris Welti wrote on 11/1/2018 10:03 AM: Nicolas Fevrier has a very detailed blog post on how Cisco handles the prefixes on their Broadcom Jericho based NCS 5500 gear. https://xrdocs.io/cloud-scale-networking/tutorials/2017-08-03-understanding-ncs5500-resources-s01e02/ I'm pretty sure the

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-11-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Message - From: "Daniel Corbe" To: "Julien Goodwin" Cc: "nanog list" Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:51:14 PM Subject: Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge I’m just going to echo what a few others have been saying. Brocade (now Extreme) have come a l

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-11-01 Thread Chris Welti
Nicolas Fevrier has a very detailed blog post on how Cisco handles the prefixes on their Broadcom Jericho based NCS 5500 gear. https://xrdocs.io/cloud-scale-networking/tutorials/2017-08-03-understanding-ncs5500-resources-s01e02/ I'm pretty sure the principle is more or less the same for the

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-11-01 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey, They all do in principle the same thing. There are memories for longest path lookup and memories for exact lookup. I believe the trick is to put specific prefix size, like /24 to exact lookup table, relieving the LPM table stress greatly. Then in parallel ask both, and take more specific

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-11-01 Thread Colton Conor
I think Extreme is doing the same thing with their Extreme OptiScale™ that Arista is doing with their Arista FlexRoute™ and EOS NetDB™. They are both using Broadcom Jericho /Qurman with extenal TCAM, but still has a hardware limitiation on route table size. Then in software they filer right?

RE: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-11-01 Thread Kevin Burke
Thanks for everyone who responded on and off list. As a small company that is happy to still be in business the pricing is too good to ignore. A "gently used" ASR-9006 is something like $45k for one plus a shelf spare. A brand new SLX 9540 is something like $30k for one plus a shelf spare.

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-11-01 Thread Jörg Kost
Hi, I do have some 9540s near exchange points, but they are not 100% productive right now, basically waiting for the next software release this month and a maintenance window. In my eyes the device is filling the gap between the CES/CER series and the MLX/SLX9850. It will be also interesting

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Daniel Corbe
I’m just going to echo what a few others have been saying. Brocade (now Extreme) have come a long way since the Foundry days; and the SLX isn’t based on the old Netiron code. The platform is a completely different animal. I’ve been a happy Brocade customer for a while now.

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 01/11/18 09:55, Brandon Martin wrote: > On 10/31/18 6:37 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: >> If you buy brocade, be sure to also by a license for securecrt so that >> backspace works over ssh... >> also, just don't do brocade... ever. > > Works fine for me using OpenSSH in most Linux-y terminal

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/31/18 6:37 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: If you buy brocade, be sure to also by a license for securecrt so that backspace works over ssh... also, just don't do brocade... ever. Works fine for me using OpenSSH in most Linux-y terminal emulators (Konsole, Linux console, Gnome terminal).

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/31/18 6:30 PM, Ryan Hamel wrote: 140K IPv6 equates to about 560K IPv4 routes, leaving the end user with 940K IPv4, which is not a lot of ceiling space considering we're at 741K IPv4 + and 60K IPv6 (240k IPv4 equivalent) now (941K total). This will leave you with 559K. I am not sure what

RE: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Ryan Hamel
From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:38 PM To: Ryan Hamel Cc: lists.na...@monmotha.net; nanog list Subject: Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge If you buy brocade, be sure to also by a license for securecrt so that backspace works over ssh... also

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Christopher Morrow
Behalf Of Brandon Martin > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:08 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge > > On 10/31/18 4:56 PM, Aaron wrote: > > It won't hold a full table. 256,000 IPv4 and 64,000 IPv6 routes. > > That was changed earlier thi

RE: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Ryan Hamel
[mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Martin Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:08 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge On 10/31/18 4:56 PM, Aaron wrote: > It won't hold a full table. 256,000 IPv4 and 64,000 IPv6 routes. That was changed earlier this year AF

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/31/18 4:56 PM, Aaron wrote: It won't hold a full table. 256,000 IPv4 and 64,000 IPv6 routes. That was changed earlier this year AFAIK. The website was slow to get updated but has been updated now. Current claim is 1.5M IPv4 and 140k IPv6. You need the "advanced feature license" to

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Ben Cannon
That won’t hold a full table - so performance isn’t relevant. -Ben > On Oct 31, 2018, at 1:01 PM, Kevin Burke wrote: > > Does anyone have any success with the Brocade SLX 9540 or similar? Its going > to be taking full BGP tables from two Tier1's and some peering. > > The specs and sales

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
Last I heard (before switching shops), not yet it won’t. Best regards. > Le 31 oct. 2018 à 21:56, Aaron a écrit : > > It won't hold a full table. 256,000 IPv4 and 64,000 IPv6 routes. > > >> On 10/31/2018 3:01 PM, Kevin Burke wrote: >> Does anyone have any success with the Brocade SLX 9540

Re: Brocade SLX Internet Edge

2018-10-31 Thread Aaron
It won't hold a full table. 256,000 IPv4 and 64,000 IPv6 routes. On 10/31/2018 3:01 PM, Kevin Burke wrote: Does anyone have any success with the Brocade SLX 9540 or similar? Its going to be taking full BGP tables from two Tier1's and some peering. The specs and sales rep says its fine, but