Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2010-01-04 Thread Vincent C Jones
Most of the SOHO router vendors (Netgear, Linksys, etc) have a model targeted at this application. When this class of dual homed router first came out several years ago, they were notoriously unreliable, but I would hope they work better by now. A search on the term ping based routing should give

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2010-01-03 Thread Mathias Seiler
Hi Paul You can do this on a linux box with a pretty much basic kernel. I currently have a similar setup at home with a DSL and a cable line (from different providers). Here's the script I'm actually using: http://ocaholic.ch/download/multinat.txt Some packets are tagged with iptables (SSH as

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2010-01-02 Thread Scott Weeks
--- paul.w.benn...@gmail.com wrote: From: Paul Bennett paul.w.benn...@gmail.com At home, I currently run two DSL lines. Right now, we just have two separate LANs, one connected to each line, with my wife's devices attached to one, and my devices attached to the other. For a while now, I've

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2010-01-02 Thread Steven King
You would need at least one router for this. Personally I would connect both DSL modems into a small Cisco router or multi-layer switch. Use that router as the default gateways for each LAN and have two static routes as the default gateway on the router to specify each DSL line. This would allow

RE: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Tim Sanderson
Do you control or have access to the provider side-the PPPoE server-and would both PPPoE connections hit the same PPPoE server at the provider? If so, I recommend setting up a PPP multilink with both DSL lines. The DSL provider would have to support that capability. I also recommend something

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Dec 30, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Paul Bennett wrote: Not sure whether this is an appropriate place to post this, but I thought I'd give it a shot, since you're all knowledgeable folks with regard to networking things... At home, I currently run two DSL lines. Right now, we just have two

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Jason Bertoch
Paul Bennett wrote: At home, I currently run two DSL lines. Right now, we just have two separate LANs, one connected to each line, with my wife's devices attached to one, and my devices attached to the other. For a while now, I've been thinking about setting up a load-balancing routing

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Ken Chase
2x DSL not so backhoe-resistant. I like mixing cable with dsl. Tasty disparate paths (modulo garden shears applied to the single ingres point to your basement) if not technologies, orgs and methodologies. Or radio + dsl, or pigeon + mule, take your pick. Would be great if you could rate your

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Brandon Galbraith
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Ken Chase m...@sizone.org wrote: 2x DSL not so backhoe-resistant. I like mixing cable with dsl. Tasty disparate paths (modulo garden shears applied to the single ingres point to your basement) if not technologies, orgs and methodologies. Or radio + dsl, or

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Dorn Hetzel
I use a T1/26xx for primary and a sprint datacard in a little NAT router for secondary. The two boxes sit on the same LAN but provide different gateway IP addresses. The sprint router does the DHCP, so things that ask for DHCP wind up using that as the primary. Some boxes use the 26xx as

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Jared Mauch
On Dec 30, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Paul Bennett wrote: Is it going to be a more-effective solution to drop a few bucks on the 2960 and go through the hassle of learning how to set it up (and then setting it up), or would I be better off putting a secured Linux distro (e.g. gentoo-hardened, or

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Dorn Hetzel
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Dec 30, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Paul Bennett wrote: Is it going to be a more-effective solution to drop a few bucks on the 2960 and go through the hassle of learning how to set it up (and then setting it up), or would

RE: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Ivan Pepelnjak
At home, I currently run two DSL lines. Right now, we just have two separate LANs, one connected to each line, with my wife's devices attached to one, and my devices attached to the other. For a while now, I've been thinking about setting up a load-balancing routing solution to give both of

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Ken Chase
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: Back at the Toronto NANOG I bumped into someone who had an interesting solution to the multihoming problem. What they had was a machine that would key/sequence the packets and send them out each connection

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Jared Mauch
On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: I guess that method presume some cooperating box out there on the net somewhere to coordinate the far end? Yes. This allowed the provider to use a variety of different technologies to reach a site, eg: IP over CATV, DSL, Fiber, Wireless,

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Brett Frankenberger
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:13:24AM -0500, Steven Bellovin wrote: I know nothing of how to do this on a Catalyst; for PCs, my own guess is that you're looking far too high-end. If the issue is relaying to the outside, I suspect that a small, dedicated Soekris or the like will do all you need

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Brett Frankenberger wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:13:24AM -0500, Steven Bellovin wrote: I know nothing of how to do this on a Catalyst; for PCs, my own guess is that you're looking far too high-end. If the issue is relaying to the outside, I suspect that a small, dedicated Soekris or

Re: Consumer-grade dual-homed connectivity options?

2009-12-30 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Dec 30, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: Brett Frankenberger wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:13:24AM -0500, Steven Bellovin wrote: I know nothing of how to do this on a Catalyst; for PCs, my own guess is that you're looking far too high-end. If the issue is relaying to the