Re: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-27 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:02:51 -0400, Lee Howard said: > Right. How many residential market gateways support any routing protocol > at all? Depends on how flabby a definition you use. Does "ask for a default route" count? :) pgpWsKLXrG1sf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-27 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, Blake Dunlap wrote: Isn't this the topic area that the home networking working group was supposed to resolve? HOMENET was never looking into running a routing protocol between the ISP and the HGW. It was all about running a routing protocol WITHIN the home, not between

Re: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-26 Thread Blake Dunlap
Isn't this the topic area that the home networking working group was supposed to resolve? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Lee Howard wrote: > > > On 9/23/17, 1:51 AM, "nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of > valdis.kletni...@vt.edu"

Re: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-26 Thread Lee Howard
On 9/23/17, 1:51 AM, "nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of valdis.kletni...@vt.edu" wrote: >On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 08:47:32 +1000, Mark Andrews said: >> You know CPE devices are routers. They can tell you what routes >> DHCP has given

RE: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-25 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Dear Steve, We used to have this in the IETF: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-prefix-pool-opt-03 and https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrescu-relay-route-pd-problem-00. We abandoned that effort because there wasn't sufficient support for it at that time. Cheers, Med >

RE: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-25 Thread Aaron Gould
I don't know about brocade, but here's what I see in Junos and IOS... dhcpv6 relay binding seen... {master:0} agould@eng-lab-5048-2> show dhcpv6 relay binding routing-instance three Prefix Session Id Expires StateInterfaceClient DUID 2699:2699:0:7::100/128 199

Re: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-22 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 08:47:32 +1000, Mark Andrews said: > You know CPE devices are routers. They can tell you what routes > DHCP has given them. That annoucement could be cryptographically > authenticated. This is, of course, a lot easier if the CPE already has onboard the needed software to do

Re: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-22 Thread Mark Andrews
You know CPE devices are routers. They can tell you what routes DHCP has given them. That annoucement could be cryptographically authenticated. Send a CPE generated public key with the PD request. Generate a CERT for the prefix delegation using those two pieces of information and return it

RE: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-22 Thread Baldur Norddahl
I know of several methods all flawed in some ways. There seems to be no progress in this obvious lack of a solid easy way to inject routes to match DHCP-PD. We use ExaBGP to inject routes via BGP that matches the configuration that our DHCP server has. But this is non standard and clumsy to

RE: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-22 Thread Steve Teusch
to handle that. Although V6 still needs a lot more attention to get to that point. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Baldur Norddahl Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 1:52 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route inject

RE: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-22 Thread Nicholas Warren
Which method would you recommend as an alternative? -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Baldur Norddahl Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:52 AM This method is lacking because you might have several routers eg. using VRRP and the backup router

Re: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-22 Thread Baldur Norddahl
This method is lacking because you might have several routers eg. using VRRP and the backup router will not learn anything from a relay on the primary. Den 22. sep. 2017 14.02 skrev "Steve Teusch" : I am running into venders that do not support injection of a delegated

Re: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-22 Thread Lee Howard
On 9/22/17, 3:12 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Steve Teusch" wrote: >I am running into venders that do not support injection of a delegated >route when operating as a DHCPv6 relay (or server for that matter). >Brocade

Re: DHCPv6-PD -> Lack of route injection in RFC

2017-09-22 Thread Nick Hilliard
Steve Teusch wrote: > I am running into venders that do not support injection of a > delegated route when operating as a DHCPv6 relay (or server for that > matter). Brocade supports this, but I am not finding this as part of > any of the RFC's. This is to deliver home ISP service, so it is very