Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution

2018-08-22 Thread Jérôme Nicolle
Hi Baldur, Le 07/08/2018 à 21:46, Baldur Norddahl a écrit : > Would it be possible to use an optical circulator like this one > (customized to 1310 nm)? > > Has anyone done this? Any reason it would not work? While it often does work, reflectance is a bitch. I'd advise you to order some

Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution

2018-08-13 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Aug 13, 2018, at 5:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > For 1 and 10Gbps OOK modulation yes, but not for something like a ITU DWDM > grid channelized or tunable coherent optic. In which the (QPSK, 8PSK, 16QAM) > signal has a specific THz width and frequency not unlike a radio operating in >

RE: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution

2018-08-13 Thread Jameson, Daniel
13, 2018 4:24 PM To: Jameson, Daniel Cc: Eric Kuhnke; nanog@nanog.org list Subject: Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution What about 100Ghz ITU spacing on the tx, are the rx optics broad enough to take the off-band input? -Ben On Aug 13, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Jameson, Daniel

Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution

2018-08-13 Thread Brandon Martin
On 08/13/2018 06:24 PM, Ben Cannon wrote: What about 100Ghz ITU spacing on the tx, are the rx optics broad enough to take the off-band input? Non-coherent receivers usually seem to even when paired with DWDM grid transceivers. You're paying for the tightly controlled laser on those, not so

Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution

2018-08-13 Thread Ben Cannon
@6by7.net; nanog@nanog.org list > Subject: Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution > > For 1 and 10Gbps OOK modulation yes, but not for something like a ITU DWDM > grid channelized or tunable coherent optic. In which the (QPSK, 8PSK, 16QAM) > signal has a s

RE: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution

2018-08-13 Thread Jameson, Daniel
Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 3:56 PM To: b...@6by7.net; nanog@nanog.org list Subject: Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution For 1 and 10Gbps OOK modulation yes, but not for something like a ITU DWDM grid channelized or tunable coherent optic. In which the (QPSK

Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution

2018-08-13 Thread Eric Kuhnke
For 1 and 10Gbps OOK modulation yes, but not for something like a ITU DWDM grid channelized or tunable coherent optic. In which the (QPSK, 8PSK, 16QAM) signal has a specific THz width and frequency not unlike a radio operating in a very, very narrow waveguide. On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 1:57 PM Ben

Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution

2018-08-13 Thread Ben Cannon
Good news about almost all optics, their Rx window is pretty wide. Meaning a 1550nm optic will activate the receiver on a 1560nm optic just fine (and probably anything in the 1500nm band). Careful use of specialized single strand DWDM muxes (FS.com) can yield great bidi-like results with

Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution

2018-08-13 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Something that is broadly the same as a coherent 100G QPSK single wavelength optical module, but in two different frequencies, and a passive CWDM mux/demux prism at each end might work. The limitation would be availability of optics for a modern 100G MSA that are both coherent and Tx/Rx at two

Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution

2018-08-07 Thread Daniel Corbe
On 8/7/2018 15:46:03, "Baldur Norddahl" wrote: Hello There is a lack of bidirectional one fiber (BIDI) options for 40G and 100G optics. Usually BIDI is implemented using two CWDM wavelengths, one for tx and one for rx. However there is also a lack of CWDM and DWDM options for 40G and